What Gargoyles Spinoff would you have enjoyed seeing the most?

[Antiyonder]

For those who've been at Ask Greg, you'll know that Greg Weissman had spinoffs planned for Gargoyles. The closest one made was Bad Guys. Which ones would you have been the most interested in? Choose as many as you want:

Bad Guys- Centering around Robyn Canmore, Dingo, Matrix, Yama and Fang members of The Redemption Squad. They are headed by an individual The Director who is after The Illuminati.

Pendragon- Features King Arthur Pendragon and Griff who will be searching for Merlin, and will meet survivers from The Arthurian Legend. Including the head of The Illuminati Society.

New Olympians- Featuring Taurus and the other characters from The Gargoyle Episode of the same name. They appear at The United Nations Building introducing themselves to the world.

Gargoyles 2198- Takes place in the future. Samson (Grandson of Goliath) Owen, Nokkar, Demona and a Time Traveling Brooklyn will be fighting against the Space Spawn to save the world leaders and the newly hatched Gargoyle Eggs.

Dark Ages- Takes place in Scotland long before Awakening. Main characters: Prince Malcom, Hudson, Goliath, Demona, Othello/Coldstone, Desdemona/Coldfire, Iago/Coldsteel and The Archmage.

Timedancer- Deals with Brooklyn's 40 years of adventures in time.

I probably would have like to have seen Gargoyles 2198, Timedancer and Bad Guys.

How about the rest of you?

[Fone Bone]

Oh, man, now I feel that we've missed out. I would have loved seeing ALL of those.

[Paul_Cousins]

I would want any series continued in the Gargoyles Universe to maintain continuety with the original Gargoyles series (ignoring season 3), with Greg Weisman in control and to bring back as many of the original voice cast members as possible.

My first choose is a continuation of Gargoyles (ignoring Season 3) with Greg Weisman in complete charge of the production. That great story-saga is still unfinish.

My second choose is the Bad Guys, it continues in the modern times parallel with the original series and it gives off a vibe that is a cross between the Dirty Dozen movies and the Angel (Buffy spinoff) series. It would probably be much darker than the original series. Plus I would love a animated series where Jim Belushi (Fang's voice actor) gets a decent number of lines.

My third choose would be Gargoyles 2198: I would love to see a alien invasion in the Gargoyles Universe. Plus I would love see how Oberon, his wife, and children react to the invasion. Talk about clash between Fantasy and Sci-fi.

And my fourth choose would be Dark Ages: I want to know more about Hudson and the clan before everything went down. (Personally I think this would make a better OVA than a TV series)

By the way, here is the direct link to the Greg Weisman's Master Plan and Bad Guys had the highest chance to be made back then. http://avalon.gargoyles-fans.org/castle/masterplan.html

Personally, I am giving as much word of mouth that Gargoyles is on ABC Family (11:00AM to Noon Eastern on Saturday and Sunday), and the Season 1 DVD Boxset with be release Late this year. Everyone that remembers it says they plan to watch. That says something right there.

I pray DVD Boxset sells for Gargoyles Seasons 1 and 2 go through the roof and one of these gets made.

[shogunthethird]

I love all of 'em but I gotta go with Bad Guys, if Joss Whedon has taught us anything is that shows with reformed villains kick ass and while the suits may be clueless, the fans love 'em

[Paul_Cousins]

I love all of 'em but I gotta go with Bad Guys, if Joss Whedon has taught us anything is that shows with reformed villains kick ass and while the suits may be clueless, the fans love 'em
Don't forget wimpy book-worms who are turned into gun-wielding take-no-names badasses. Or need I remind you about good old Wes.

Anyway, throw in Macbeth as the leader of the Redemption Squad and the ‘Director’ who works and funds them from behind the scenes, who the Redemption Squad don’t really know, have the human initials D.D. and you would have one excellent series.

It would work on so many levels. :evil:

[tucsoncoyote]

I think if they left Gargoyles the way it was after Hunter's Moon or even After Season 3 it would be okay, but I think that in retrospect Disney in theory Could do an episode where the wakes up the evening of September 11th 2001, and finds out what happens.. then the fun really begins..

GI Gargoyles..

(It's sort of like what happened in The World Tour Series where they go back to 1940's England during the Battle of Britian and now in a world of Modern tech, it would be interesting how they react to the same situations we had to deal with since 1997. after all we're talking Gargoyles right?

(Okay so maybe the idea is silly, but still to keep the continuity after 7 years of Not having Gargoyles it leaves me to wonder how would they keep up with this story?)

:coyote:

[Paul_Cousins]

I think if they left Gargoyles the way it was after Hunter's Moon or even After Season 3 it would be okay, but I think that in retrospect Disney in theory Could do an episode where the wakes up the evening of September 11th 2001, and finds out what happens.. then the fun really begins..

GI Gargoyles..

(It's sort of like what happened in The World Tour Series where they go back to 1940's England during the Battle of Britian and now in a world of Modern tech, it would be interesting how they react to the same situations we had to deal with since 1997. after all we're talking Gargoyles right?

(Okay so maybe the idea is silly, but still to keep the continuity after 7 years of Not having Gargoyles it leaves me to wonder how would they keep up with this story?)

:coyote:Gargoyles has really good rewatchablity. Plus, WB has been using continuity for almost 12 years, from Fox's Batman: The Animated Series to Season 2 of JLA and it has worked out great.

As long as they release the DVD Boxsets of Gargoyles Season 1 and 2, I see no problems.

[Antiyonder]

Gargoyles 2198 or Gargoyles 2158 at the time I believe was actually considered airing for CBS, but Disney pulled the plug on it's deal with the network. I would think of it as the mother of all spinoffs, because The Avalon World Tour and the other spinoffs would factor into it.

Also, aside from the spinoffs, there were a few stories that were planned, but didn't make it:

1. An episode where Xanatos would take advantage of Goliath's absense in New York. Between his appearances in Kingdom and Cloud Fathers.

2. Before Marvel Comics canceled the Gargoyles Comics Greg had a story set during The Avalon World Tour where Goliath, Elisa, Angela and Bronx run into Coldstone in The Himalayas. Which is why Angela is familiar with him in Possessions.

3. There was an episode of Team Atlantis (follow up to Atlantis The Lost Empire) centering around Demona, Fiona Canmore and The Prey Gargoyle. For those who don't know there were 3 episodes filmed for Team Atlantis which is sold as Atlantis 2 Milo's Return.

[tucsoncoyote]

3. There was an episode of Team Atlantis (follow up to Atlantis The Lost Empire) centering around Demona, Fiona Canmore and The Prey Gargoyle. For those who don't know there were 3 episodes filmed for Team Atlantis which is sold as Atlantis 2 Milo's Return.You're not kidding there Antiyonder.. after all it would have been intersting to see Milo and Team Atlantis deal with the idea of Demona and The Canmore Gargoyle Hunters.. but sadly I take it these three episodes will never be seen, thanks to the ideas of Disney.. :( But it would be an interesting story to watch I bet!

BTW, you know that Atlantis 2: Milo's Return is on This Friday on Disney Channel. I wonder what 3 eps made it to the tape?

:coyote:

[Sandoz]

Gargoyles 2198, since it would feature my three favorite characters: Demona, Brooklyn, and Owen.

[Antiyonder]

You're not kidding there Antiyonder.. after all it would have been intersting to see Milo and Team Atlantis deal with the idea of Demona and The Canmore Gargoyle Hunters.. but sadly I take it these three episodes will never be seen, thanks to the ideas of Disney.. :( But it would be an interesting story to watch I bet!

BTW, you know that Atlantis 2: Milo's Return is on This Friday on Disney Channel. I wonder what 3 eps made it to the tape?

:coyote:

I kid you not. The episode was voice acted and script. Those who attend The Gathering get to hear the recordings and read the script. In one of the entries, Greg said that The Praying Gargoyle was created by Atlanteans to protect their allies The Gargoyles.

It's important to note that not everything in The Atlantis Universe is canon with Gargoyles. They both have their own version of The Loch Ness Monster and Puck (He could be the same Puck given that he can take any form he wants).

[tucsoncoyote]

I kid you not. The episode was voice acted and script. Those who attend The Gathering get to hear the recordings and read the script. In one of the entries, Greg said that The Praying Gargoyle was created by Atlanteans to protect their allies The Gargoyles.

It's important to note that not everything in The Atlantis Universe is canon with Gargoyles. They both have their own version of The Loch Ness Monster and Puck (He could be the same Puck given that he can take any form he wants).
Interesting Antiyonder, after all I notice a theme about Puck, Loki, and of course Coyote... all three are known in the world as "The Tricksters" but only Puck is the supreme Trickster in the Gargoyle's Universe.. I wonder how the Team would handle 3 of them?

:coyote: (not the Trickster!)

[Antiyonder]

Interesting Antiyonder, after all I notice a theme about Puck, Loki, and of course Coyote... all three are known in the world as "The Tricksters" but only Puck is the supreme Trickster in the Gargoyle's Universe.. I wonder how the Team would handle 3 of them?

:coyote: (not the Trickster!)

I believe Anansi is a Trickster. Along with Puck, Coyote and Raven

I'm pretty sure Puck would be the only trickster in the episode.

However, there was a multi-trickster episode planned for the 3rd Season, but it became Ransom.

[Paul_Cousins]

Interesting Antiyonder, after all I notice a theme about Puck, Loki, and of course Coyote... all three are known in the world as "The Tricksters" but only Puck is the supreme Trickster in the Gargoyle's Universe.. I wonder how the Team would handle 3 of them?

:coyote: (not the Trickster!)Actually, in the 'Ask Greg' section of the Station 8 website, Greg Weisman had stated he had planned to introduce the Egyptian God Set as a nastier trickster than the others, including Puck.

[STARTOUNZ]

The future series wouldn't be a bad idea. Aside from the characters mentioned for that series, I'd also include Coldstone, Coldsteel, and Coldfire, the cybernetic gargoyles who were restored through a combination of science and sourcery. I've always wanted to know what happened to them since they had gotten their own robotic bodies. I can figure Coldsteel would be on Demona's side as part of whatever evil schemes she's planning and Coldstone and Coldfire would help out the good guys in efforts to stop them.

[William C. Maune]

Gargoyles 2198 or Gargoyles 2158 at the time I believe was actually considered airing for CBS,

Actually it was Bad Guys (aka Redemption Squad) that was pitched to CBS, but CBS decided not to pick it up.

Interesting fact though, Greg concieved Gargoyles 2198 as possibly a CG series. That may not seem like much these days, but it would have been rather interesting had it been greenlighted at the time Gargoyles ended 8 years ago.

[Fone Bone]

I personally don't think The Goliath Chronicles should be ignored. If they do decide it doesn't fit the mythology it should at least be explained. (Possibly a false vision from Puck.) To omit it outright would be too confusing for the audience especially if the first episode IS considered cannon. I honestly don't see the damage TGC does to the mythology of any of the spin-offs.

I wonder if we''l ever see any of these. I think the idea of a CGI Gargoyles series is a bad one though and if Gargoyles 2198 is someday made it should be traditionally drawn.

The Redemption Squad sounds like a great idea and should definately feature MacBeth.

Pendragon would also be awesome with King Arthur and Griff.

2198 sounds interesting but I would only want to see it if it were 2-D.

Timedancer sounds kind of weird. How would Brooklyn be traveling through time? Huh. Sounds cool though.

The New Olympians and Dark Ages hold the least appeal to me. The New Olympians were kinda lame and Dark Ages would better be served as flashbacks in a new Gargoyles toon.

What are the odds of the Gargoyles ever coming back to TV? I think if it returns and the 65 episode rule is still in place a spin-off would cicumvent that quite nicely.

Not so crazy about the Team Atlantis episode though. If it wasn't in continuity I frankly don't see the point.

[William C. Maune]

I personally don't think The Goliath Chronicles should be ignored. If they do decide it doesn't fit the mythology it should at least be explained. (Possibly a false vision from Puck.) To omit it outright would be to confusing for the audience especially if the first episode IS considered cannon. I honestly don't see the damage TGC does to the mythology of any of the spin-offs.

Considering a new series or continuation would be new to most folks in the target audience, I don' tthink omitting TGC would be confusing for most of the audience. As for the mythology, all of the clones being turned to stone permanently, etc. would have effects on the mythology.


I wonder if we''l ever see any of these. I think the idea of a CGI Gargoyles series is a bad one though and if Gargoyles 2198 is someday made it should be traditionally drawn.

What's wrong with CGI?


Timedancer sounds kind of weird. How would Brooklyn be traveling through time? Huh. Sounds cool though.

The Phoenix Gate


Not so crazy about the Team Atlantis episode though. If it wasn't in continuity I frankly don't see the point.

Greg said it would be in continuity.

[Fone Bone]

Considering a new series or continuation would be new to most folks in the target audience, I don' tthink omitting TGC would be confusing for most of the audience. As for the mythology, all of the clones being turned to stone permanently, etc. would have effects on the mythology.
But we don't know if the clones were turned to stone permanately. They could always reanimate them if they need to. If they choose to ignore TGC they should at least acknowledge it as Puck messing around or something. Either way, TGC despite being a mediocre series really did no lasting damage.




What's wrong with CGI?

Honestly nothing, but I couldn't picture the entire series as cannon if the same universe was animated differently. It's the same with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command which I don't connect to Toy Story and Teen Titans which I don't connect to the DCAU. Honestly I'd just prefer the Universe to stay consistant.



The Phoenix Gate
Aaaah, coolness! Just read the entire article. Neat stuff.


Greg said it would be in continuity.
D'Oh! Now I'm ticked that the series didn't get picked up. I wasn't crazy about the movie but if it tied in with Gargoyles I would learn to love it. Puck you could work around but how would the Lochness Monster be explained?

[Antiyonder]

The clone scenario is the only one that would have been easy to reverse.

1. The final episode Angels In The Night has the Gargoyles finally gaining love and respect from every New Yorker. In Greg's Plans they would eventually get tolerated at the best.

2. John Castaway's character was messed up on Angel's In The Night, as he admitted that Gargoyle are protectors, when he's suppose to believe they are evil. Not to mention the writers ignored the fact he was really Jon Canmore. The Quarrymen were also were suppose to be a garden variety group. Some members would be mercenaries, and some would be concerned citizens.

3. Xanatos was also poorly handled. He called off his fued with the clan, but he would have continued his schemes (such as immortality). He would work to make sure his schemes wouldn't put him into conflict with The Gargoyles. TGC, however, he is shown to be 100% good.


Again, Greg said that most of Team Atlantis (as well as Atlantis The Lost Empire) won't all be canon. The episode featuring Demona and Fiona Canmore would. The episode with Puck is a possibility. The Loch Ness Monster episode isn't canon in the Gargoyle Universe.

[Fone Bone]

The clone scenario is the only one that would have been easy to reverse.

1. The final episode Angels In The Night has the Gargoyles finally gaining love and respect from every New Yorker. In Greg's Plans they would eventually get tolerated at the best.

2. John Castaway's character was messed up on Angel's In The Night, as he admitted that Gargoyle are protectors, when he's suppose to believe they are evil. Not to mention the writers ignored the fact he was really Jon Canmore. The Quarrymen were also were suppose to be a garden variety group. Some members would be mercenaries, and some would be concerned citizens.

3. Xanatos was also poorly handled. He called off his fued with the clan, but he would have continued his schemes (such as immortality). He would work to make sure his schemes wouldn't put him into conflict with The Gargoyles. TGC, however, he is shown to be 100% good.

Oh, okay. How could they handle the fact that the first episode is considered cannon? The rest as a false vision from Puck, maybe. I have a hard time with only certain episodes from any series being considered cannon. Despite my distaste for them I believe Star Trek V and Enterprise are part of the Star Trek mythology. My feeling is, if it's on the screen, it's part of the story espescially since all the voice actors were on board for TGC. If TGC isn't cannon it should at least be explained.

Who did Fox's voice on the first series? It isn't credited in the episodes and it's driving me nuts.

[Paul_Cousins]

Who did Fox's voice on the first series? It isn't credited in the episodes and it's driving me nuts.
Laura San Giacomo, the star of 'Just Shoot Me'.

[Antiyonder]

Greg Weissman would have the explaination online as to why the last 12 episodes of TGC weren't canon. The Journey was the only one that was written by Greg. Another problem was continuity was messed up. Few examples:

1. The episode Runaway Goliath states that Brooklyn will make a good leader some day. Avalon World Tour anyone?

2. In TGC episode Genesis Undone, Thailog appeared without mention of how he survived the fire in The Reckoning. Goliath and Clan act as if that event never happened.

3. In the episode For It May Come True, John Castaway was arrested for his activity as a Quarryman. In Angels In The Night, everyone seems to have forgotten that fact.

[Paul_Cousins]

Greg Weissman would have the explaination online as to why the last 12 episodes of TGC weren't canon. The Journey was the only one that was written by Greg. Another problem was continuity was messed up. Few examples:

1. The episode Runaway Goliath states that Brooklyn will make a good leader some day. Avalon World Tour anyone?

2. In TGC episode Genesis Undone, Thailog appeared without mention of how he survived the fire in The Reckoning. Goliath and Clan act as if that event never happened.

3. In the episode For It May Come True, John Castaway was arrested for his activity as a Quarryman. In Angels In The Night, everyone seems to have forgotten that fact.
With all the errors and lack of quality Season 3 had; it is like going from a good juicy T-bone steak to dog-food.

[krazymed]

I've read a lot of the fanfics. This show could have gone on for years.

[Paul_Cousins]

I've read a lot of the fanfics. This show could have gone on for years.
It still could depending on how well the DVD Boxsets sell and how lucky Roy Disney is in getting control from Eisner.

The best we can do right now is word-of-mouth.

[DarthNuriko]

"Timedancer" for sure! It features my favorite gargoyle and stories for 2198 could easily be included in it.

[Fone Bone]

Laura San Giacomo, the star of 'Just Shoot Me'.
Aaah! Knew I recognized it. I wonder why she chose to remain anonymous. Gargoyles was a way better show than Just Shoot Me.

I wouldn't have a problem with ignoring most of TGC if they remade The Journey. That way it would be separate from the rest of the episodes and tie into a new series just nicely. I'm a continuity freak so stuff like that is important to me.

Let's get Roy Disney back.

[Paul_Cousins]

Aaah! Knew I recognized it. I wonder why she chose to remain anonymous. Gargoyles was a way better show than Just Shoot Me.

I wouldn't have a problem with ignoring most of TGC if they remade The Journey. That way it would be separate from the rest of the episodes and tie into a new series just nicely. I'm a continuity freak so stuff like that is important to me.

Let's get Roy Disney back.
If guys want me too, I will post a who's who list of the voice cast (and which characters they voiced) on this forum. It would probably shock you at how much talent there is in the Gargoyles series.

[William C. Maune]

It still could depending on how well the DVD Boxsets sell and how lucky Roy Disney is in getting control from Eisner.

In spite of his flaws, it is thanks to Eisner that Gargoyles was greenlighting Gargoyles in the first place.

[Paul_Cousins]

In spite of his flaws, it is thanks to Eisner that Gargoyles was greenlighting Gargoyles in the first place.Then it must have been before he went senile.

But I would like to know who greenlighted transferring Season 3 to ABC Kids and firing Greg Weissman and his production crew.

[William C. Maune]

But I would like to know who greenlighted transferring Season 3 to ABC Kids and firing Greg Weissman and his production crew.

All of those decisions were made at ABC.

[Paul_Cousins]

All of those decisions were made at ABC.
Don't they just finally throw out the CEO of ABC.

[Fone Bone]

If guys want me too, I will post a who's who list of the voice cast (and which characters they voiced) on this forum. It would probably shock you at how much talent there is in the Gargoyles series.
That would be great.:)

[Paul_Cousins]

That would be great.:)
You want it, you got it.

[William C. Maune]

Don't they just finally throw out the CEO of ABC.

Yep, but there is a good chance the same person was not CEO 8 years ago. Those positions don't usually last that long.

[oranthal]

The Phoenix GateHow is that possible? The Phoenix Gate was lost in time when Goliath incanted the spell and when the gate opened, he just hurled the Phoenix Gate into it.

[Paul_Cousins]

How is that possible? The Phoenix Gate was lost in time when Goliath incanted the spell and when the gate opened, he just hurled the Phoenix Gate into it.The Phoenix Gate might have a mind of it's own, or it could be magically summoned. There are a couple of ways to work out this problem.

[Antiyonder]

Yes the Phoenix Gate was lost in time, but it ends up near Brooklyn sometime after The Journey. Brooklyn would reappear 5 minutes after his departure 40 years older, and with a mate, a gargoyle kid, egg and a gargoyle beast.

Eventually, The Gate would end up where it was the first time in history and then ends up in Princess Elena's possession to start the whole loop over.

[William C. Maune]

How is that possible? The Phoenix Gate was lost in time when Goliath incanted the spell and when the gate opened, he just hurled the Phoenix Gate into it.

Thus, now that it is no longer in anyone's control, it just appears wherever in time and at some point it ends up taking Brooklyn along for the ride.

Alternatively, because the Phoenix Gate doesn't just move forward in time, it may have already had its thing with Brooklyn before Goliath threw the gate into its own portal.

[Ian]

Bump.

Definetively Gargoyles 2198, mostly because it'd be the culmination of everything Weisman has set up. Plus, it seems to be the only series that couldn't be incorporated into the main one in some way, shape, or form. Plus, it stars all of my favorite characters (because you just know that if Alexander is inmortal, so are Fox and Xanatos). I really don't see any good in making the other series (except for "Timedancer" which I'm not too keen on), as they would have taken away from the 'core' series.

As for how to re-introduce Gargoyles if production were to begin again, I say remake "The Journey" and begin from there. It firmly establishes it as canon, it fixes the errors made the first time arround, and it's already a good "re-establishing the concept" episode.

[Fone Bone]

Bump.

Definetively Gargoyles 2198, mostly because it'd be the culmination of everything Weisman has set up. Plus, it seems to be the only series that couldn't be incorporated into the main one in some way, shape, or form. Plus, it stars all of my favorite characters (because you just know that if Alexander is inmortal, so are Fox and Xanatos). I really don't see any good in making the other series (except for "Timedancer" which I'm not too keen on), as they would have taken away from the 'core' series.

As for how to re-introduce Gargoyles if production were to begin again, I say remake "The Journey" and begin from there. It firmly establishes it as canon, it fixes the errors made the first time arround, and it's already a good "re-establishing the concept" episode.
Remaking The Journey IS the best way to go. I would find it WAAAY too confusing to only have one episode of a miniseries cannon while the rest are not.

[Antiyonder]

Remaking The Journey IS the best way to go. I would find it WAAAY too confusing to only have one episode of a miniseries cannon while the rest are not.
After thinking about, it would work.

Not a complete makeover, just redo all of the art to match the first 65 episodes, end it with Goliath leaping across the rooftops.

Is that pretty much what you had in mind.

[Fone Bone]

After thinking about, it would work.

Not a complete makeover, just redo all of the art to match the first 65 episodes, end it with Goliath leaping across the rooftops.

Is that pretty much what you had in mind.
Well, yeah, and they could tighten up the story a bit too. Have it different enough to be a satisfying premeire episode. But pretty much make sure to touch on all of the essentials the episode put forth: The Quarrymen, Vinnie, MacBeth defending the Gargs etc.

[Strollymonster]

To be honest, I don't care which one of those I got, I just want to see more Gargoyles!

It was (and remains) my favorite Disney show...

On the bright side, with Eisner going in a couple of years, this might mean they'll look into some of these old ideas...

We can always hope...

[Ian]

.
Is that pretty much what you had in mind.
Actually, I was thinking a bit more drastically, but not much. Begin with a one or two minute recap of the previous series (using new animation), narrated by either Macbeth or Demona, reintroducing the whole universe. Eliminate Goliath's monologues. Vinnie's part would have to be either eliminated or elaborated upon, since it really doesn't work without Vendettas. The Ishimura reference would have to be eliminated; too out there to make sense for new viewers, too unimportant to be elaborated upon. Finally, correct the 'Goliath flies, although he said he wouldn't', mistake.

Heck, now that I think about it. The one minute recap could be an episodic thing, with Macbeth narrating the past events relevant to the episode.

[Barb Gordon]

Hmm, that's a good question. Glad I finally poked my head over here to check out the Gargoyles discussions :)
Normally I would say TimeDancer. All my friends love that spinoff idea, and actually one of them is an artist who has drawn loads of images dealing with that storyline. I love Brooklyn and Japanese culture, so a combination of the two was fantastic.
At the same time I would have loved to have seen Gargoylws 2198, mostly for Puck/Owen.
Pendragon would be great too. I would love to see Arthur finding Merlin, and I love the Griff character and wished to see more episodes that paired him and Arthur in adventures.

~Barb

[G. Wen]

The original series left a lot of loose ends that needed to be tied up, I like to see more episodes of the original. Possible themes for exploration:

Xanatos new, improved, yet still strained relationship with the Gargoyles
Demona's and Angela's interactions
Goliath's and Eliza's relationship
Derek's new look and the rest of the family
Broadway and Angela, with Brooklyn as the outsider
the Illuminati!

There's lots to explore, and yes, I want more stories about the Illuminati!:cool:

[Hordesman]

Laura San Giacomo's agent was responsible for her not being creditted. He thought it was a career risk for her to be a known VA.

I think Macbeth is more Pendragon material than BG, certainly not leader material. One of the best things about BG was that it was going to be an action show with a female leader.

[90'sCartoonMan]

Pendragon all the way. But I might be saying that because I just took an Arthurian Literature course.

My second choice would be Timedancer because, well, Brooklyn rules!

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Timedancer, because Brooklyn is TEH awesome.

Pendragon would be my second choice, mostly because of Griff in his own series is to tempting not to want.

GARGS FOREVER!