Danny Phantom Talkback

[Yash]

Tonight's the premiere of the new show Danny Phantom from the creater of the Fairly OddParents. Will it suck or be bood? You'll have to find out by watching tonight on Nick.

[Killtacular]

Be bood?

Starts in a couple of ... a lot of minutes.

[loyalheart]

im watching right now, and it's a bit odd but i like it ;p

[Killtacular]

This show has one big flaw that makes it suck:

It's directed and boarded by people who can't board or direct action! So it's lame action, but because it tries to be action-comedy, the comedy doesn't go far enough either. So it's a depressing middle-of-the-road piece of crap. Oh well, Butch.

[loyalheart]

This show has one big flaw that makes it suck:

It's directed and boarded by people who can't board or direct action! So it's lame action, but because it tries to be action-comedy, the comedy doesn't go far enough either. So it's a depressing middle-of-the-road piece of crap. Oh well, Butch.
yeah that's what makes it odd, (according to me lol) and the animation is too FOP but im still having a fun with it

[MattThomasM2B]

Wow. They said killed. At least there was one good thing about this waste of 30 minutes. Action comedies suck.

[Discloner]

This show has one big flaw that makes it suck:

It's directed and boarded by people who can't board or direct action! So it's lame action, but because it tries to be action-comedy, the comedy doesn't go far enough either. So it's a depressing middle-of-the-road piece of crap. Oh well, Butch.
I will agree with you that the action wasn't totally up to par with an Action cartoon. But in all honesty, from my stand-point it isn't all that far from the action in say...Powerpuff Girls.

It'll entertain the kids and that's what its purpose is. I personally thought it was enjoyable, but like with FOP, I wouldn't go out of my way to catch new episodes.

[Spongebrain2.0]

YA! Finally someone agrees with me that a show I tihnk sucks..actually sucks, POWER TO THE TRUTH!!!!!

[Obi]

Meh. Not outstandingly funny, and the action wasn't good at all.



Oh well. First episodes usually aren't that good. Maybe it will get better with time...

[Dan Turpin]

this, i think, will be one of those shows that, if ur just flipping channels and trying to find something on, you might watch. I dont think its one of those "set my schedule around" shows. But who knows, it might get better........

[Bubblegum Girl]

The show's pretty good to me. After all it was the first episode. You should give it time to show all of the other episodes before judging. Was there a pilot episode that aired on Oh Yeah! cartoons? If so, I miss out.

[Zapages]

Liked the comedy, I enjoyed more the two friends because I have the same two type of friends at school too... Minus the ghost...

The action was ok but nothing special, its FOP meets PPG(action to a degree).

[wrenchien]

i thought it was ok.. not the greatest.

you'd probably like the outfits worn by the parents of that kid more than the show, or the supporting cast.

maybe he should consider making the supporting cast the show next season, if there's a next season.. they're much cooler.

[Alaskanbullworm]

I personally liked it. The theme song on Hartman's site though, I would have liked better than the theme they used. I hope it doesn't turn out to be mainly "ghosts come out, Danny puts them back in" sort of show, although one of the next episodes doesn't look too much like that. I think the comedy and action parts of the show are good, it can be better, but it's still good for a kids show. Definately something I'd keep watching.



I guess I like more paranormal stuff though, like "The Real Ghostbusters" and umm.....

[AdamYJ]

I'm surprised so many disliked it. I really liked it. Then again, I really like superhero action comedies (one of my favorite comic books of all time is DC's Young Justice, you do the math). The fact that it's a comedy about a teenage superhero makes it even cooler to me. It was kind of like Ultimate Spider-Man meets Fairly Odd-Parents with Ghostbusters thrown into the mix.

[ThePeterNetwork]

The only problem I had with Danny Phantom was the high school principal who indicts Danny and his friend on starting the food fight. This is not unique because I always have a beef about authority figures in general and others who do the hero in, usually "for no reason" (see from FOP; Crocker, Vicki, Francis, the parents for being clueless to Timmy's emotional pain)

[Xfox]

The show was pretty good. I normally like animated shows that mix action and comedy (Slayers, Darkwing Duck). So far what appear to be its strengths- Nicely defined characters, good animation and character design (FOP meets My Life As a Teenage Robot). I'm glad they didn't go all-out goofy like FOP and the 14 and up age of the characters is a nice change from the kids and tweens that normally populate these type of shows. Weaknesses- Shaky plot and back story. I'm not sure what Danny's friends's purpose is yet. Are they just supposed to get in the way whenever Danny fights? Do they get to do more than hang around with Danny?

Overall it was pretty good. Not the best Nick show ever, but certainly not the worst.

[GL2k2]

Dislike bad rappering, especially in tv theme songs; it just makes me feel like I'm watching tv and I don't like that. I like the comic book-esque titlecard though, I was impressed with it, actually. Like the fact that Danny's parents are ghostbusters of sorts, but it just doesn't seem to work right.

All in all, concept is okay, but the show is too dumb-downed for me to tune in every week. Also, I must mention that this show is very similar to Clive Barker's Ectokid, a comic book character he created for Marvel's Razorline. Which I may add was going to be developed as an animated movie or series for . . . Nickelodoen.

Here's a link:

http://www.clivebarker.dial.pipex.com/newtvc.html

[Charlie]

Dull action, duller humor, and a bad theme song to boot. This was pretty bland I think. Plus the Oddparents art style dosn't really seem like it can constitute an action show. I did sort of enjoy the friend characters (whose names escape me at the moment). I'll check it out next week, but I don't think it'll improve.

[Ghostbuster Man]

MAN, What is the matter with all of you?!?!:mad:

This was a great show!

Why is it that a great show like this
always gets bad reviews!?

I liked every thing about it,
except the mean authority figures. (esp.Danny's sister)

You can't expect every show to be another Samari Jack Or
Clone Wars.

Besides those shows are getting way to repetative these days.

(Not that I don't like them;they are good shows.)

[PaQ]

A new series premiering today, so of course I'll bring you my "Mystery Meat" review:

An interesting episode to say the least. I like the FOP style art and some other elements in the show that illustrates that it's from their creators. The characters seem interesting, typical teens, the way Danny gets his power was creative. Having parents obsessed with ghosts reminds me of Crocker in FOP being obsessed with Fairies. Similarities intertwine with those, as both just miss seeing their obsessions. The ghost was interesting as was, the method of Danny winning. Nice to know he has loyal friends, I don't know what to think of that principal character though, seems too mean, but maybe that's me. I think the whole jock getting off so you get the blame is getting overused in shows lately. An ok opening episode, nothing spectacular, but also nothing craptacular. A meh episode, I might tune in, see if maybe my gf can convince me too. I give it a C+.

[tucsoncoyote]

After reading the reviews here I have to throw in my spin here on Danny Phantom, Especially the Pilot Episode, Mystery Meat.

First off the Animation, and this goes back to KimPossibleFan, after all the animation style is the same stuff that is off of another show that is popular.. Namely of Course Kim Possible (the original Concept of the Art for Danny Phantom was done by none other then Steve Silver (of Silvertoons), so at least we're Not talking apples and oranges here with Mr. Silver's artwork..(after all I like Steve's Work and it is more hip then most animation in today's world, with tthe exception of Tartokofsky's work over at Cartoon Network (Samurai Jack, and Dexter's Lab). But at least the animation is the Solid Foundation.

Next up is the Dynamics, and this goes out to KTF, Patrick Star, wrenchien, and especially Bubblegum Girl (who's Correct in her observation that it is the first show!)

The Dynamics here are a bit weaker then normal but give it enough time, after all Most Shows do have to grow on you. Furthermore as wrenchien pointed out, the Supporting Cast is cool, (I personally am Liking Sam a Bit, though Danny's Sister (Jessica) makes some rather interesting points with the Parents.. The Parents are a bit Wacky.. and remind you about Kim Possible's Parents (Dad's a Rocket Scientist who's a Bit Ecletic, Mom who is a Brain Surgeon but a bit more common sense) but Danny's Parents are both Inventors and Like Jessica said, "They Tend not to spend time with their Impressionable Son."

(Hey Older sisters sometimes can be a pain, but then again so can younger Brothers (Flip Mode, Kim Possible's Twin brothers Jim and Tim) so this is really a Two way Street..

As for the Friends, I have to Say Sam's the more Sensitive one (maybe) and the tech Geek Friend (who is a Meat Eater) tends to be a bit more oh I don't know.. Silly at times..(but hey that's what friends are for!)

but the one person that I noted that really was odd, was the High School Principal..(Oh man talk about Napoleon Complex!) but then again the Bully wasn't half bad either..

all in all given enough time, and a bit better writing of a Story, this could turn into a Plus...

The Theme song wasn't a total kick tail song (but it's hip!)

The Only Problem I saw was that The Story itself indeed was a bit dumbed down, but hey this is Nickelodeon Right? They tend to dumb down to the younger groups..(though this could be targeted for Young Teens, this is probably more of a Show designed for those 7-12 year olds..(Go figure) I say get better writing and have it revolve not only around the Ghost Powers Problem but also Teen related problems of a High School Freshmen, and you got something that might just work..after all they just need better writing and better dynamics here.

The Bottom Line: This show is No Teen Titans or Kim Possible, It's not even close to Yu yu Hakisho, but given the fact that the artwork is by the artist who designed Kim Possible, and the fact that the creators are from Nick's other hip show, The Fairly Oddparents, The Only Weak point I have to comment about is the Story itself..(A Ghostly Lunch Lady bent on having meatloaf forever!) but all in all I say give this show a "Ghost of a Chance" and let the writers run with it, after all It's far from perfect and it shows that when you look at it, it has the "Possibility" of being a very good show, Not Great mind you , just very good. After all It's not even close to being Horrible, though right now being the pilot episode, it was a bit 2 Dimensional in the story department at worst, at least it's watchable, and had me laughing from time to time.. but give it time guys! After all this wasn't Game Over!

So Move over Kim Possible, and Teen Titans.. This Phantom's Come to Play!

Final rating: 8.9 out of 10.. the story kind of Lost it, but the characters and the plots are indeed funny. The animation is Good, but give the writers a ghost of a chance, and you might have something Nickelodeon could use..

:coyote:

[tucsoncoyote]

MAN, What is the matter with all of you?!?!:mad:

This was a great show!

Why is it that a great show like this
always gets bad reviews!?

I liked every thing about it,
except the mean authority figures. (esp.Danny's sister)

You can't expect every show to be another Samari Jack Or
Clone Wars.

Besides those shows are getting way to repetative these days.

(Not that I don't like them;they are good shows.)
Actually I have to be on your side on this one GBman, after all I too thought it was potentially cool, after all read my review in this thread, the only weak point I could see was the story itself.. and being that it's the premiere episdoe, the writers are just getting started. I have a feeling that subsequent episodes will improve over time..

after all It's Like I said, No Kim Possible or Teen Titans, but it does have a Potential to become like them!...

:coyote:

[Andy Mancini]

There's one thing that you all are forgetting: It's the first episode. If you take ten animated series and line them up, nine of them had first episodes (or first seasons, for that matter), that were less than stellar. For every Invader Zim or Family Guy, there are five shows like The Simpons. That's just how it is. Now, that being said:

I liked it. Was it the greatest thing ever? No. Was I expecting to see a surprise cameo by either Timmy Turner, Egon Spengler, or Yusuke Urameshi? Yes. Still, for a first episode, it was pretty enjoyable. Here's to hoping that it'll get better over time.

[Killtacular]

The first episode is not a pilot, as the actual Danny Phantom pilot is a separate thing previously produced for Nick, just like Invader Zim.

So the whole "It's the first episode!" excuse is invalid.

Not to mention that the style of direction and boarding is not going to change at all until the second season is produced. And that's my biggest problem with it.

[DSRGirl]

Like others have said, a perfectly normal (well, for a kid who can change into a ghost anyway) average episode. Hmmmm, so if this isn't the pilot, I guess the Pilot was an extended version of what happened in the theme song then (Danny gaining his ghost powers and probably fighting for the first time or whatever). I have to agree with KTF though. Samantha and Tucker (Danny's friends) feel sort of useless. I guess that's to be expected, considering that they're just regular teenagers, but I hope that they can be more useful in later episodes.

[Eddie G.]

Wait, his parents are insane, his best friend is crazy/stupid, he has another best friend who's an out there free thinking girl (who there will probably be unresolved romantic tension between. Leading the eventual fans of this show to write bad fan fics about. Seriously can we have a cartoon where the character has a girlfriend), his sister is stuck up, he's not really a loser but not with the in crowd, and his peers punish him not knowing how much of a hero he is.

This is the main problem with the cartoon, it just feels like its going threw the motions giving us character we've already seen in other comics and cartoons. It almost seems as if they decided, "hey we're going to make an action comedy and this is the concept," and then they didn't follow up by putting any work on building the universe or characters in anyway except to act as a wall for them to bounce jokes and their ideas off of. It is sort of disappointing considering FOP, what makes that show so fantastic is the original characters mixed with the great concept and great humor.

Now this doesn't mean that I didn't like the show, I actually enjoyed some of the supporting cast. The parents were funny too, sure they were unoriginal and the dad reminded me of a character who will be coming up in an up and coming Pixar/Disney movie. But I did enjoy their scenes. I also enjoyed how the principal did not look like an ugly gnome or a stiff straight laced WASP as many animated principals, assistant principals, and teachers seem to in animation.

The three main characters were interesting, sure they seemed uninspired including the hero, however I did feel that they were friends. And as much as I found them unfunny and unoriginal, I couldn't help to find them charming. When the two friends were running upstairs with him sleeping or when the two were getting in the meat/vegi argument I truly felt these three people were really good friends.

The rest of the show I didn't much care for, the humor and action was mediocre at best, but I did enjoy the half hour because the show is just charming. It's not really something I can explain, maybe it was the fact the show wasn't arrogant in it presentation trying to be great and failing (although the execs are probably aiming for this to be another FOP). But I was charmed by it and will tune in if I can.

Grade: C+

[Cancelled]

Semi enjoyable. I liked the overall concept, but ultimately, I'm not impressed. I'd give it a 6 out of 10.

I'll go in-depth later. Gotta go.

[Ickis]

TOO much like farily odd parents in drawing style,which bears looks like it was ripped off the drawing style of 2 stupid dogs.The show and faily odd parents both earn a 2 out of 5.:mad: Boorrriiinnnggg.

[DSRGirl]

Uh, fair enough opinion Bill, but this isn't about The Fairly Oddparents. Just thought I should mention that.

Oh, and if you missed it the first time, the episode is going to repeat in about 80 minutes, after the rerun of the 2004 Kids Chocie awards.

[Auggie Doggie]

Judging by your reviews, I think I've just realized why I don't come here anymore.

I disagree with about 80% of you. The humor was very nicely done here, including the gap between Danny's pal (the girl is some kind of hippie and the negro guy, who sounds a little like AJ but has a different actor, can sense what meat you've just had very easily). And the style of the animation (like the humor) is just like FOP. Call it ripping off if you want, but that would just be undiplomatic. I prefer to look at it as Butch's trademark style, and you should realize all of that. The animation is just fine, but the way the action was executed was simply amazing. I would personally love to have the same kind of powers Danny has. That would just be wicked awsome.

I give this a big thumbs up.

EDIT: I also liked the work of the voice artists, including Collen O'Saughnessy (Sora from "Digimon") as Jazz, and David Kaufman (Jimmy Olsen from "Superman: TAS" and the Micheal J. Fox imitate VA) as Danny.

[Ickis]

Woah ok,Butch must have rather learned from 2 stupid dogs on how to draw,but if I would had known Micheal.J.Fox played dannys voice this would have earned a 3 out of 5 for its connection with one of my favorite movies Back to the Future.:D

This is real cool.

[DSRGirl]

Actually, the drawing styles from Two Stupid Dogs AND Danny Phantom do have something in common. Let me explain.

Two Stupid Dogs Art Direction was done by Craig McCracken, who also has done work on Dexter's Labaratory, and later went on to create the PowerPuff Girls. Dexter's Lab and PPG share a sense of "traditonal" art, borrowing a lot of influence (among other things) from Hanna Barbera (McCracken also did this for Two Stupid Dogs: Simple, Clean and somewhat flat animation). Butch Hartman also borrows from the Hanna Barbera style (one interview with him I remember saying the Art Direction in FOP is somewhat like The Flintstones, except using Digital Ink and Paint) as evident in Fairly Oddparents, which looks a lot like Danny Phantom, since Butch Hartman and his creative team worked on both shows.

I hoped that helped someone.

[Redi]

...yeah, I wasn't able to get through it.

The art stlye doesn't fit the premise.
A superhero whose only power is walking through stuff is a lil' lame.
The comedy isn't up to FOP and the action wasn't good.
Characters...nothing special.

...and I really don't see much potential for this series unless it becomes really funny and they drop the superhero thing.

[Lonestarr]

Saw it last night. Has an interesting cast of characters, good animation, fine voice work, but the story (to me) seemed to go on forever. I expected a bit more from Butch Hartman.

Even so (idiotic ghost-hunting dad notwithstanding), there's the germ of a good show here.

Grade: C+

[tucsoncoyote]

Saw it last night. Has an interesting cast of characters, good animation, fine voice work, but the story (to me) seemed to go on forever. I expected a bit more from Butch Hartman.

Even so (idiotic ghost-hunting dad notwithstanding), there's the germ of a good show here.

Grade: C+
I think that you're right about the two factors that really brought this pilot down to the C+ level here Lonestarr,

(I think the Dynamics with the characters though give it a higher rating and a B+ is in order. ), but yeah the Ghost Hunting dad is a bit too odd, and the story was really weak sauce.. at least they could have shown Danny's Unfortunate Accident..(oh wait, it's in the THEME song! (DOI!))

But give the writers "a ghost of a Chance." after all I have a feeling over time things will get better, after all the next episode Looks a bit more promising..and a bit more funny!:D

:coyote:

[loyalheart]

thought it may have it's odd parts and such about the series you should be able to get through one episode if you cant then why even try watching to begin with

[Cancelled]

continuing w/ my earlier observation...I hated the story idea of a lunch lady ghost coming back b/c they changed the menu...c'mon, this is a pilot episode, they should have started off stronger than that!

the show also needs to make up its mind; does it want to be an action show, or a comedy? Judging by the first episode, it's failing at both. And yes, it's okay to judge a show by the first episode--Nickelodeon (sometimes) knows what they're doing, they should have tested Danny Phantom with more focus groups or something.

again, decent show for the kiddies, but I'm far from impressed.

[ElBarto]

MAN, What is the matter with all of you?!?!:mad:

This was a great show!

Why is it that a great show like this
always gets bad reviews!?

I liked every thing about it,
except the mean authority figures. (esp.Danny's sister)

You can't expect every show to be another Samari Jack Or
Clone Wars.

Besides those shows are getting way to repetative these days.

(Not that I don't like them;they are good shows.)Well 'Ghostbuster Man' I think you really like ghosts (your sig and the thing under your name that says the ulitimate ghostbuster) so you like a show with ghosts in it, witch is fine but you can't expect everyone to like it. I thought the show was okay I came in around the middle and I have a question why does blue gas come out of his mouth?

[Cancelled]

that blue gas is like his "ghost alert" breath. I'd rather him say, "My spider-sense is tingling!"

[Disney Freak]

Danny Phabntom is soooooooooooooo cool.

[Killtacular]

the negro guy
quoted for rascism


And the style of the animation (like the humor) is just like FOP.
Yes, only it completely fails. But it's not like FOP because FOP's pacing throws 300 jokes into an 11 minute script. Danny had maybe 15 jokes stretched across 23 minutes. And all of them sucked.


The animation is just fine, but the way the action was executed was simply amazing.
No. The boarding was okay but the animation certainly wasn't fine. It was directed very poorly. Had some shots that didn't make any sense at all. Lousy composition.

Nice backgrounds, though.


that blue gas is like his "ghost alert" breath. I'd rather him say, "My spider-sense is tingling!"
This is what doesn't make sense. Ghosts are visible yet invisible to regular humans? Danny's arm starts to become invisible which suggests that ghosts by default are invisible, and yet Danny's friends can see them? And then Danny's superhero form is... visible that can become invisible? But as a ghost wouldn't Danny be invisible and able to walk through walls the entire time--

YOUR HEAD A SPLODE

[Eddie G.]

Yes, only it completely fails. But it's not like FOP because FOP's pacing throws 300 jokes into an 11 minute script. Danny had maybe 15 jokes stretched across 23 minutes. And all of them sucked.I agree with everything you basically said except the last little sentence. All the jokes didn't really suck, out of those 15 jokes there were maybe ten decent jokes and five horrible lame jokes. FOP also has merely decent jokes and in some occasions horrible lame jokes. It's just that FOP has so many really good jokes that it makes up for the okay jokes and make us forget about the lame jokes. I do agree that this show needs to work on the humor, and try to be a little more original, a lot of these bits and jokes were a tad cliche. Although the bit about having more energy from a high protein diet and having more free time when you don't cook your food tickled me (although vegetarians tend to not eat their veggies raw and boil them, but nevermind).



This is what doesn't make sense. Ghosts are visible yet invisible to regular humans? Danny's arm starts to become invisible which suggests that ghosts by default are invisible, and yet Danny's friends can see them? And then Danny's superhero form is... visible that can become invisible? But as a ghost wouldn't Danny be invisible and able to walk through walls the entire time--I don't think the ghosts are invisible by default, the father seemed to think that his daughter was a ghost while she was a perfectly visible human. Unless I missed something, I think Danny only started to become invisible because he just lost control of his powers for a second and it was some sort of reflex, like when Superman's eyes grow red with heat vision because he's angry.

[robert]

I just browsed through the show in between the Final Four. But did anyone else notice that Butch Hartman is basically reusing the idea of a character{or characters in this case}hunting mystical creatures? The Fairly Oddparents had the crazy fairy obssessed, fairy hunting teacher Mr Crocker, and this show has the crazy, ghost obssessed, ghost hunting parents[though the dad is obviously crazier here]Of course the parents don't twitch like Crocker and they're the main character's parents instead of his teacher, but it basically sounds like the same basic premise, only tweeked around a little bit.

[DSRGirl]

I just browsed through the show in between the Final Four. But did anyone else notice that Butch Hartman is basically reusing the idea of a character{or characters in this case}hunting mystical creatures? The Fairly Oddparents had the crazy fairy obssessed, fairy hunting teacher Mr Crocker, and this show has the crazy, ghost obssessed, ghost hunting parents[though the dad is obviously crazier here]Of course the parents don't twitch like Crocker and they're the main character's parents instead of his teacher, but it basically sounds like the same basic premise, only tweeked around a little bit.
You could say that Jack Fenton (Danny's Dad) Is A Combination of Mr. Crocker and Mr. Turner (Timmy's Dad) as in a Paranoid Idiotic Ghost Chaser Who Really Isn't The Best Father Figure.

[Mist]

You could say that Jack Fenton (Danny's Dad) Is A Combination of Mr. Crocker and Mr. Turner (Timmy's Dad) as in a Paranoid Idiotic Ghost Chaser Who Really Isn't The Best Father Figure.
Yeah, all cartoons nowadays have to have the typical "stupid Dad" in them. Thanks Matt Groening. :shrug:

Anyway, i think Danny Phantom has an interesting concept. A boy who can go inivisble and travel through walls sounds so cool. Only problem is, the animation, while i like how bright the colors are, the style isn't suited for an action cartoon. Best suited for a comedy, like FOP. Not to mention, it's too comedic (Though it's not very funny) to be an action cartoon. This show would've done so much better if they decided to make it serious, instead of comedic, but then again, Nick hates anything serious. (Methinks Butch should've gone to CN for this one) The whole "Meat Villian" thing really annoys me. It's typical Post-90's Nick humor.

"LOL!!!!11 THE VILLIAN IS USING M3AT AS A WEAPON!!!111 H0W FUNNEE!!!1111"

Why can't the Villian, use, say, i don't know, psychic powers? Or maybe a laser cannon? Control electricty? To make a villian cool, the villian must pose a threat to the hero, and have a "cool" gimmic. Like Dr. Octopus, he has metal tentacles, which he could use to strangle Spidey, or send volts of electrcity through his body (Can his tentacles do that? It's been a while since i've watched the cartoon) Dr. Eggman, has huge robotic mechs with large fists, lasers, and spikes. While, DP has a villian who uses-- lunchmeat. Uh-huh. See where i'm going? Not cool. Not funny. Just lame.

[Cancelled]

Ironically enough, Butch Hartman originally pitched FOP to Cartoon Network, but Linda Simensky didn't like it...so now Nick is enjoying the huge success (and even bigger ratings) of FOP...

anyway, do you guys like Danny Phantom more than My Life as a Teenage Robot?

[Killtacular]

Ironically enough, Butch Hartman originally pitched FOP to Cartoon Network, but Linda Simensky didn't like it...so now Nick is enjoying the huge success (and even bigger ratings) of FOP...

anyway, do you guys like Danny Phantom more than My Life as a Teenage Robot?
It's amusing. I also heard that CN rejected Spongebob Squarepants. They felt both pilots were plain imitations of their own work, or at least that was the spin I was told.

Fred Siebert really punched CN in the gut by moving the what-a-cartoon concept to Nickelodeon. My Life as a Teenage Robot would've been a perfect Cartoon Cartoon. It has the same direction and boarding style of Dexter (which, if you look at Renzetti's roots, is natural).

Also heard that Nick rejected the Proud Family pilot.

So, yes, people really market their shows around. Chances are Ed Edd n Eddy and Courage might've been pitched to other markets before CN as well, being third party.

[Ultra8]

This show was pretty good. The parents were hilarious, what the ghostbusters would be if they were morons:D. A bit of FOP,Ghostbusters,and My Secret Identity mixed together. Though I wish they could have done better than a ghostly lunch lady. The whole ghost origin surprised me , I was expecting aliens and supver-villians from the get go, I blame this on my info-sources. But over-all an A+

[Dudley]

Ironically enough, Butch Hartman originally pitched FOP to Cartoon Network, but Linda Simensky didn't like it...so now Nick is enjoying the huge success (and even bigger ratings) of FOP...

anyway, do you guys like Danny Phantom more than My Life as a Teenage Robot?
I like My Life As a Teenage Robot, becuase it has the humor Dexter's Lab used to have.

[Rover_Wow]

A superhero whose only power is walking through stuff is a lil' lame..

Try telling that to someone who thinks Mira Nova is cool... like me. :D
OK, she's also got agility, good looks, and royal blood to be fair...

[DSRGirl]

Originally Posted by Redi
A superhero whose only power is walking through stuff is a lil' lame..

Well, he can also fly as well. I'm guessing he'll also have other powers that we'll see in later episodes.


Try telling that to someone who thinks Mira Nova is cool... like me. :D
OK, she's also got agility, good looks, and royal blood to be fair...

Can't Mira Nova also read people's minds as well, and is a top notch fighter?

[PeppeRaskell1]

MAN, What is the matter with all of you?!?!:mad:

You can't expect every show to be another Samari Jack Or
Clone Wars.
That's just the problem: After seeing Samurai Jack and Clone Wars, suddenly everyone wants to be Genndy Tartakovsky.

Having seen a few minutes of the show, the characters look too cute to be taken seriously. I almost expected Cosmo and Wanda to drop by for a cameo and help destroy the Lunch Lady with their magic wands. And in his Phantom outfit, Danny could pass for the fifth member of the Fantastic Four.

[tucsoncoyote]

Yeah, all cartoons nowadays have to have the typical "stupid Dad" in them. Thanks Matt Groening. :shrug:
In the Immortal words of Mr. Rogers, can you say


DOH!



I knew we could...



But seriously When you look at Danny Phantom you should really not try to look at Dad as a bumbling fool, after all he does try to be a father, rather then Homer Simpson who really is a bumbling fool, after all Groening did design Homer to Be Totally Dysfunctional... of Course Timmy Turner's Father is a bit better and in fact when you rate the current pack of Fathers, you have to put Jack Fenton (Danny's Father) somewhere between Dr. Possible (Kim Possible's Father) and of course Timmy Turner's Dad.. but I take it that neither Jack Fenton or Dr. P are really bumbling idiots.. more like eccentric eclectic fathers who would sit down with their sons or Daughters and tell them what life lessons they learned.. (but hey I hear you guys on the Crocker Paranoia.. after all You can thank that character for starting all this trouble!



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[tucsoncoyote]

That's just the problem: After seeing Samurai Jack and Clone Wars, suddenly everyone wants to be Genndy Tartakovsky.

Having seen a few minutes of the show, the characters look too cute to be taken seriously. I almost expected Cosmo and Wanda to drop by for a cameo and help destroy the Lunch Lady with their magic wands. And in his Phantom outfit, Danny could pass for the fifth member of the Fantastic Four.
I see Danny as Shego's Cousin (Shego of course being From Kim Possible) ... I can see her walking in with those glowing Green hands, and saying to Danny..."What's Happenin' Cuz?" though he dioes Look oddly like Mr. Fantastic in that costume he wears, after all I wouldn't be surprised if they based Danny off of Mr. Fantastic!


As for your comment on Gennedy Tartakovsky., Peppe, doesn't everyone want to be like Mr. Tartakovsky? I think not, after all many artists have many styles, and the initial artwork done for Danny Phantom, was done by the same guy who did Kim Possible (One Steven Silver of Silvertoons) (the reason why Steven Silver's Work looks the way it does in Danny Phantom, is because the show's Creators (who are the Directors of The Fairy Oddparents wanted it that way!)

so as for the observation there on the animation, blame it on the directors of the show, after all they want it that way!

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[Rover_Wow]

Can't Mira Nova also read people's minds as well, and is a top notch fighter?

Yes, all that too. The mind reading does involved a bit of her "ghosting" ( :rolleyes: ) powers, as she shoves her hand into someone's head. Meanwhile, no kidding she's a top notch fighter. She's got not just the laser, but also an array of kicks (which raises a question that deserves its own thread: why do the token women of action-oriented animation have slim bodies, top-notch kicks, and tons of agility?). Hmm...

[Marzongrl]

got a few things to say. are you guys afraid of changes? seriously i have to admit that this show is something a little different from what Nickelodeon normally does. of course the animation wasn't meant for action exactly but the FOP style kinda adds something to it. the concept of it, yeah i'd have to say that first story wasn't the best, but what do you expect? at least this superhero (would you call him a superhero) isn't popular. i was honestly getting sick of the i can do anything, i'm such a perfect person who JUST HAS TO BUY from Club Banana, Kim Possible. the only thing that makes that show is Ron and Rufus. so i give them kudos for Danny Phantom. for a new show, it lights on something a little different if you overlook the relations between FOP. and i've wondered, we must have a lot of times on our hands to know about the cartoons.:sad: but i always say: you can never have enough cartoons.:anime: besides, if you sat there and watched it, all 22 minutes of it, then it has something to offer.

[Sugah]

Big fan! Seen every premier ep and have my own DP site! Probably the first to have Audio, Video and screen caps/shots! Check it out!

http://www.freewebs.com/danny_phantom

Be aware that almost 5 or more people are online at every possible moment, the clips could be exceeded bandwidth for about 10-30 mins :sweat:

[sag_2002]

I also have become a "Danny Phantom" mark. I knew this was going to be a great series when I heard that Butch Hartman ("The Fairly Oddparents") was onboard.

My favorite episode would have to be the one with that big ghost biker dude who steals one of Tucker's schedule thingies and has to do exactly what Danny has to do on a daily basis. Whenever he was getting ready to finish Danny off, the schedule would beep, he would read what it said, and WHOOSH! He's outta there. That had to be the second-greatest 5 minutes of animation in 2004 thus far (Kim Possible's act in "Hidden Talent" being #1.)

Almost forgot this, but the theme song's kinda catchy, as well.

[Sugah]

Even though the animation isn't its best, I always thought Danny looked pretty cool begin 14, jet-black hair... :D

Sam looked completely Punk in "Parental Bonding". That episode has a lot of plot and detail. But why Paulinea... argh! That name annoy's me and so does her voice. Dash sounds like a wind-up toy mouse... :p

I like Jazz in Mystery Meat when she gets caught several times by her ghost-hunting parents... :anime:

I also thought it was hillarious when Danny and Tucker were hugging... hehe :evil:

Some good news:

Instead of Nick's usual order or 13 eps per season... Nick ordered another 7 eps to make a total of 20 eps for the first seasons run! :D They already distroyed Teenage Robot with its constant re-runs of the 13 episodes... But, Nick makes a right turn for once..!

[loyalheart]

i have missed every episode since the first and now my danny yahoo group is basicly dead also lol

[sag_2002]

This week's Danny Phantom was great. The villian was some genie chick who granted people wishes. And that Hello Kitty parody scene with Paulina... Weirdest. Scene. Ever. Just.... freaky.

[PaQ]

Friday's phantom was alright.

I really enjoyed Paulina as the Hello Kitty parody character.. "I'm full of big headed anime goodness!"


Average episode, C+

[lostrune]

Yeah, the anti-Hello Kitty (Sayonara Pussycat). :anime:

Paulina's voice, though, sounds almost scary on a chibi kawaii anime bighead. :eek:

[David Lucas]

It was twice as scary for me, however, as I find that accent Paulina has to be the sexiest thing ever.

So seeing it come out of a giant chibi-Paulina running around in the cutest way imaginable in animation kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth....

[Invader Neutron]

Oh well. First episodes usually aren't that good. Maybe it will get better with time...
Yeah, seriously--anybody remember the first few eps of Tiny Toons. Jeez, somebody shoot me. I like DP, love his voice.

[Bubblegum Girl]

Friday's phantom was alright.

I really enjoyed Paulina as the Hello Kitty parody character.. "I'm full of big headed anime goodness!"
When I saw that, the word "Powerpuff Girls" pop into my head. :D