New "Spider-Girl" to debut in "Amazing Fantasy No. 1"

[Spider-Man]

According to Diamond Comics and Newsarama, Marvel is introducing a new Spider-Girl in June, with the release of the new Amazing Fantasy series. Diamond’s site only has the quick slug for the new series, written by Fiona Avery and drawn by Mark Brooks:

"She's fierce, she's sassy...she sticks to walls! Amazing Fantasy #1 is where it all begins: Meet an all-new, all-different heroine! Fiona Avery (Amazing Spider-Man) and Mark Brooks (Marvel Age Spider-Man) launch a surprising series of teen-friendly adventures set in the current Marvel Universe!"

The site also has a cover image up for the issue:


http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/AmazingFantasy1.jpg

Newsarama also talked to Tom DeFalco, writer of Spider-Girl about this upcoming series, and what's in store for Mayday Parker:

http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10627

This could really get ugly in June...

[Bubblegum Girl]

Spiffy! :D

[Bound High]

I prefer my girls to be voluptuous. :shrug:
I'll pass.

[sag_2002]

That outfit is... interesting.

Meh, I never really followed Spider-Girl when she debuted, so I may have to check this out.

[Eddie G.]

I prefer my girls to be voluptuous. :shrug:
I'll pass.I didn't realize that Spiderman asked who wants to date this woman.

Anyway she looks pretty cool, and might get me to pick up AF #1, which will be the only mainsteam Marvel book I'll be reading besides She-Hulk.

[Bound High]

I didn't realize that Spiderman asked who wants to date this woman.
I only buy female empowerment bullflop when the heroine is nice to look at.

[Eddie G.]

I didn't realize that Spiderman asked who wants to date this woman.
I only buy female empowerment bullflop when the heroine is nice to look at.That's a presumption isn't it, you haven't read this book and you call it femal empowerment bullflop? What evidence do you have to support this stance. And furthermore your statment comes off with some sexism, but I won't get into that. Anyway if you have a problem with me finding sexism in what you said please PM me because I don't this thread to steer away from its intent.

[randomguy]

I only buy female empowerment bullflop when the heroine is nice to look at. You're a monster.

Anyways, this is... weird news. Marvel's got a bunch of series trying to target new readers in the works right now (the Marvel Age books, Mary Jane, and this), and I can't help but wonder if that really matters. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have accessible books, but if those books are only available in the same old market (comic book stores), I don't see how these titles could really broaden existing readership.

[Bound High]

What evidence do you have to support this stance.

"She's fierce, she's sassy...she sticks to walls! Amazing Fantasy #1 is where it all begins: Meet an all-new, all-different heroine! Fiona Avery (Amazing Spider-Man) and Mark Brooks (Marvel Age Spider-Man) launch a surprising series of teen-friendly adventures set in the current Marvel Universe!"

[randomguy]

"She's fierce, she's sassy...she sticks to walls! Amazing Fantasy #1 is where it all begins: Meet an all-new, all-different heroine! Fiona Avery (Amazing Spider-Man) and Mark Brooks (Marvel Age Spider-Man) launch a surprising series of teen-friendly adventures set in the current Marvel Universe!"
How does that constitute "female empowerment"? Of course it's worded that way- she's the freakin' protagonist of the series! Would you prefer her to be described as mellow, inactive, and redundant? Must every book with a female protagonist automatically be labelled as some sort of empowerment vehicle?

[EddieTheEditor]

Is it just me, or is the outfit akin to the Spiderman Mangaverse Outfit? And by that, I mean the "Webline" thing.

[shoujoaifan]

MAN, this can not be good. Tom Defalco says he's fine with this, but we all know he's a working man, so its not like he could really say otherwise if he wants his job.

Here's a few things on my mind:

1. On the POSITIVE, OG Spider-Girl is getting a Marvel aga and some TPB's, so Marvel is FINALLY showing some interest in her again.

2. At least the new one is called Amazing Fantasy, which is pretty non-descriptive, even if it was from SPidey's old mag.

3. While Spider-Woman 1 did all right not having any direct ties to Spidey, just in name and source of powers, most of the time a spin-off character needs to be directly involved to do well, which Spider-Woman 3 tried but no dice.

Spider-Girl works since she's the kid of Webhead, and because he actually stays out of her way due losing a leg (they say is all the time and its part of origin, its no spoiler), so she's not being overshadowed.

On the NEGATIVE side

1. Given past comic book history, we got to sometimes wonder if the suits want actually want to get money when they come up with ideas for making money :shrug: DC blew it Crisis for the most part, and now we've had 3 new SuperGirls since then, the second one actually going to EIGHTY ISSUES but now they writing her out of the picture for a modern version of the Supergirl they killed off in Crisis, and don't forget how confusing Powergirl's origin became after she stopped being a Earth 2 Supergirl

Marvel isn't DC, but they've made their own mistakes. We've had THREE Spider-WOMEN by now (4 if you count the villian one)

In short, what's to stop them from knocking off the future Spider-Girl? They shown more interest, but company decisions to make more money aren't always based on facts about what actually works.

2. Future (May "MayDay" Parker) Spider-Girl is getting a new costume in #75!? WHY? If its to compete with the new Spider-Girl (even if they said here's room. We know you have no choice but to say that.), then that makes sense, but they better stick with a variation of Peter's costume, since not only is that a costume EVERYONE knows from movies and TV, but as Pete's kid, she's actually connected to him unlike the first 2 Spier-Women, which is her strength, while the first Spider-Woman did fine one her own.

3. The article mentions the absurdity that is valuing one fictional universe over another but awknoledges that may come into play. Spider-Girl WAS a "POS0SIBLE" future before, but now they unnecessaryily made it branch off from an altenate ending of "The Gathering of The Five". It showed us Pete lost half his leg in the future and was supposedly a good story (haven't read it yet), but unnecaessary and knew it would be aproblem later on considering all the cancellations.

If it does come down to the wire where they think they're losing losership on each title by dividing it among 2 Spider-Girl's , HYPOTHETICAL and the suits may do it even if both are doing GOOD, they may scrath one off, thinking the other will "OBVIOUSLY" sell more. OH LOOK, an alternate future! And no more supporting titles, just this one! Let's forget that any money is still money and that we're getting a small and steady sales to the fanbase, so let's get rid of it!

Granted, comic book industries on based more on movie, TV, and toy deals and using the comics to merely promote the characters, so knocking off a small comci would be no big deal.

[Bound High]

How does that constitute "female empowerment"? Of course it's worded that way- she's the freakin' protagonist of the series!
In advertising, words are selected with care and not out of the blue to target the most choice demographic. Those are the words one uses to get a female readership. Females still have empowerment issues so they want to see in their entertainment women who are empowered. To give them what they want, i.e. power, is obviously the objective here. This is why manga is doing so well among teenage girls.


Must every book with a female protagonist automatically be labelled as some sort of empowerment vehicle?
When there is a male interest involved and they are trying to make inroads for female interest then in many cases the answer is yes.

[shoujoaifan]

Well, you're banned now, don't know how long that last, but even IF it's female empowerment, so what?

I'm not saying they should go preaching every issue (from what I've heard, Wonder Woman is supposedly doing good right now, being a strong woman character WITHOUT putting emphasis that she is female, the GOAL of equal rights) but if they make a female character weak just so they can claim its NOT female empowerment, then that would be wrong, not to mention a waste of a comic.

ANYWAYS, could anyone explain this "WEBLINE" from the Magnaverse? From the looks of it, this Spider-Girl's verion looks like some kind of grapling hook that make work simliar to Daredevil's billyclub.

On one hand, that's different than Spider-Man, and if she's doing her own thing like Spider-Woman 1+2, than she's doing it, but this seems kind of like a heavily depowered webbing. Spider-Women 1+3 haven't been known to "Web-Sling/Web-Swing" (don't know about #2) but if they trying to imitate Peter yet be different, this will be hard to ASETHICALLY.

I mean, what's she going to do, take her time going from buliding to building? (Looks at Batman and Daredevil) Then again...

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,

Boy, lot of speculating going on here, considering all we've got is one paragraph of soliciation text and a cover image. I have no solid idea of who this new Spider-Girl is or what her story is, although I do have to say that the cover image looks pretty neat.

It's also worth remembering that the original Spider-Man was an experiment in a soon-to-be-cancelled title. Management was convinced he'd be a failure.

Last note is that everybody's entitled to an opinion, but please don't feed the troll.

-- Ed/Ace

[shoujoaifan]

Ironically, Spider-Girl herself was also an experiment in the shortly-there-after What If...? Vol. 2 series.

As everyone knows and would probably tell me before I beated them :p , Spider-Man was an experiment by Stan Lee in creating a superhero teen who wasn't a sidekick and didn't really want the job but puts up with because of his belief of responsibility and his guilt.

Everyone yawns,

Spider-Girl was an experiment in that it provided closure of sorts to what happened to Baby May, while thankfully leaving it opened, which was tremendous considering the baclash of the clone saga then and now.

Everyone yawns.

Both which lead to fans asking for more, leading to series.

Everyone's asleep.

But while I'll try to be optimistic that May's comic will survive, although it would be in denial to say she isn't in trouble, this new one may not cut it.

Unless there's some push in the other comics spotlighting her, she's pretty much is just starting right off the bat, not to mention it wasn't because of fan response, since she's never appeared before, but all calculated.

As for this ONE picture and paragragh, which is hard to really get much out of admittedly, she's seems pretty cliche. Tomboy type using the newer cliche of using normal clothes for costume.

I'm NOT dissing tomboy characters, I think we need more of them, NOR am I'm dissing feminine characters. There should be more of a balance to give girls a wide variety of role models. Ironically, Future Spider-Girl keeps re-balancing herself back and forth in the comics, with attire getting more feminine and haircut going back to more masculine.

THEN AGAIN, all characters start pretty blank. If they could come up with something unique for the new Spidey-Girl, or at least make her addearing, she might last. Spider-Woman 3 seemed interesting to me the few times I read her, tomboyish, rebelish spoiled girl who has problems with her father not being around and becoming more mature as she did the superhero biz, but from what I heard from reviews, she was supposedly a little hard to endear too becauase of her spoiled attitude.

On the bright side, she was the American version of Card Captor Sakura, always popping up in a different costume since she couldn't make her mind up :p