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Bound High
03-12-2004, 10:41 PM
Isn't it interesting that if I grab a woman's ass and she punches my lights out then she's defending her rights, but if a gay guy grabs my ass and I punch his lights out, then I'm a homophobe?
hmm.......
Eddie G.
03-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Well honestly you would be a homophobe in some way, your fearful of a situation where a man is making sexual advances on you and you express your fear through anger and physical defense.
I'm not saying in this situation a hate crime is being committed someone has a right to protect the behind, but it is one some level homophobic behavoir. What you also must consider is if a woman grabbed your ass would you punch her lights out or object to it?
This thread is going to be closed anyway so ignore what I say.
You're just below the law.
Hal Lee Mark
03-12-2004, 11:35 PM
I'm not saying in this situation a hate crime is being committed someone has a right to protect the behind, but it is one some level homophobic behavoir. What you also must consider is if a woman grabbed your ass would you punch her lights out or object to it?
Then that means that any woman who punches out a guy who grabs her ass is a misanthropist.
Rebuffing a gay guy who rudely comes on to a hetero is not a sign of homophobia. It's retaliating against a jerk who hopefully will have learned a lesson.
Tienshin
03-12-2004, 11:59 PM
Hmm...
Well, if society has taught us anything it is that homosexual men PREY upon their unsuspecting heterosexual counterparts, scheming and seeking out ways to grab their asses. This is their code. AND YOU MIGHT BE NEXT! :eek:
:rolleyes:
dendawg
03-13-2004, 12:17 AM
Hmm...
Well, if society has taught us anything it is that homosexual men PREY upon their unsuspecting heterosexual counterparts, scheming and seeking out ways to grab their asses. This is their code. AND YOU MIGHT BE NEXT! :eek:
:rolleyes:
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Eddie G.
03-13-2004, 12:29 AM
Then that means that any woman who punches out a guy who grabs her ass is a misanthropist.
Rebuffing a gay guy who rudely comes on to a hetero is not a sign of homophobia. It's retaliating against a jerk who hopefully will have learned a lesson.Well first of all you must understand I believe that all or most hetrosexual men are at some degree homophobic. I have no problem with homosexuality and am very friendly with lots of gay people, however I do feel at some level this is a person who could have sexual desire and could force me to do something. I think this is why a woman is more defensive of getting her bottom slapped than a man, because the man does not fear being raped by the woman on almost any level while the woman most likely on some level does.
It's a degree and form of homophobia I'm not saying Bound High or whoever said that quote is a homophobe that the act at some level deals with being uncomfortable with a man making sexual advances on you, having at some level a fear of it. Anyway I agree with what Bound High said in essence that punching the guy in no way would be a hate crime of any sort. However I come back to the question, would the person who said the quote act as aggressive to a woman.
Hal Lee Mark
03-13-2004, 12:35 AM
I think this is why a woman is more defensive of getting her bottom slapped than a man, because the man does not fear being raped by the woman on almost any level while the woman most likely on some level does.
I don't think women are afraid that men will rape them all the time unless they're feminists. Men would be more inclined to accept that kind of behavior because they tend to be more aggressive in courting, so any female who shows a similar amount of aggressiveness is admired.
Tienshin
03-13-2004, 12:46 AM
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Bud 'n Lou
03-13-2004, 10:13 AM
Bound High, what's the source of your quote?
I think sexual harassment refers to something that happens in a workplace environment where job security may be threatened. In this case, I believe an unsolicited ass-grabbing would qualify as sexual assault.
In any case, whether or not this person is homophobic depends on if he punched the guy because he was gay, or because it was an unwanted sexual advance and felt his safety was at risk.
Nightflower
03-13-2004, 11:52 AM
I wasn't aware that the risk of guys getting their ass grabbed by other guys were that high. I know that gay guys are stereotyped to being flamboyant and more forward, but I would think that they wouldn't just grab any ol' ass at the risk of a) the other guy not being gay, and therefore the act is futile and b) seriously offending the other guy.
Slash Tompson
03-13-2004, 07:57 PM
Still happens though. Anyway, its not homophobia. Its a matter of personal space. The guy would feel just as disturbed, but probably not as violent if a grotesquely unattractive woman grabbed his ass. Whether or not he will punch her will depend on the man's upbringing. I'd probably run and cry. But the guy hits the gay guy for the same reason he would hit a straight guy; he offended him and/or stepped into his personal space with out a permission slip, which usually attractive woman have permanent access.
DarthNuriko
03-13-2004, 09:12 PM
Isn't it interesting that if I grab a woman's ass and she punches my lights out then she's defending her rights, but if a gay guy grabs my ass and I punch his lights out, then I'm a homophobe? I have problems assessing this because this comparion is not exactly parallel. In one instance you are the infringer and in the second you are the infringed. The quote conveniently forgets to mention what you are in the first instance. If you grab a woman's ass, you are a harassing, groping weasel, and a thoughtless hedonist with little if any self control or terms of personal space. I'd say along with being a violent, hair-trigger tempered, homophobe with apparently no other skills to assess his own rights besides a fist and a grunt, it doesn't look good either way.
Slash Tompson
03-13-2004, 09:37 PM
If you grab a woman's ass, you are a harassing, groping weasel, and a thoughtless hedonist with little if any self control or terms of personal space. I'd say along with being a violent, hair-trigger tempered, homophobe with apparently no other skills to assess his own rights besides a fist and a grunt, it doesn't look good either way.
So, uh, wait a minute.... what about the other dude that grab's MY ass. Isn't he the same? Those are some pretty harsh arguments, man.
Mr. Pedro
03-13-2004, 10:38 PM
Regardless of sexual orientation, anyone who violates another person like that is a scumbag in my book.
shogunthethird
03-14-2004, 12:13 AM
and if a girl grabbed my ass, I'd be spooked at first but depending on how she looked I'd be a little turned-on or in the words of two women from a John Callahan cartoon "It's only sexual harassment if they're not datable"
Chris Wood
03-14-2004, 01:22 PM
"Sexual harrassment"?
Yes, please.
Youko Recca
03-14-2004, 01:31 PM
As many times as Fatima kicked in my balls......I must be one sick SOB :p
catwoman
03-16-2004, 08:23 AM
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It's a trap.
But seriously, I don't know how to answer this. I guess it's a just a double standard that everone accepts.
Catwoman
Well first of all you must understand I believe that all or most hetrosexual men are at some degree homophobic. I have no problem with homosexuality and am very friendly with lots of gay people, however I do feel at some level this is a person who could have sexual desire and could force me to do something. I think this is why a woman is more defensive of getting her bottom slapped than a man, because the man does not fear being raped by the woman on almost any level while the woman most likely on some level does.
And statistics show that the majority of rapes of men are perpetuated by other men. Just a note.
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