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DR. BELCH
10-16-2001, 01:45 PM
For those of you who have read Anne Rice, was anyone else thinking of The Body Thief during this episode?
Strange deaths are happening in L.A.--guys are inexplicably falling apart. Literally--they flop down to the floor as a loose pudding of flesh.
Angel and company discover that all the victims were the members of a certain health club and investigate the connection. While Cordy slavers over the hunks, Angel investigates the retirement home across the street after seeing something suspicious in a window. He discovers an old man, Morris, who likes peering at the gym through binoculars. It seems Morris also has an ancient urn, which he uses to possess the bodies of young men. A few words of Latin are uttered, and Angel and Morris' spirit switch bodies.
This leads to some pretty funny stuff: Morris/Angel thinks his new host body is gay after Cordy tells him he needs to talk to Fred about their "date" the other night, and, assuming Fred is a guy and that Wes is Fred, this paves the way for a very awkward conversation (with homophobic overtones--note how "Angel" pulls away from Wes when he gets too close...and his proper British mannerisms don't help any.). Morris/Angel discovers that he's possessed a vampire after he picks up some dame and almost rips her throat out, then realizes he can't see his face in a mirror. Unfortunately there were a couple of good jokes missed--imagine our unwitting vamp trying to step out in broad daylight and getting baked, or Cordy setting a big tall frosty glass of pig blood down in front of him for lunch. Yummy.
Meantime, Angel/Morris is trapped in the old-folks' home and trying to get out, but between a fat surly orderly and a bum ticker he's pretty much trapped. Morris/Angel comes to him, however, because he wants to know more about what he's gotten himself into--big mistake. By now Gunn, Wes, Fred, and Cordy have figured out what's going on, and trailed the old man--young man--whatever. Another great scene where Fred gets a little overexhuberant while keeping Morris/Angel in check and clocks him a good one on the head with a stick. Eventually everyone gets back into the bodies where they should be...and Morris suffers his fifth heart attack. We don't know if he lives or not, but...all things considered, if he dies, it's his own darn fault for scheming to live off of borrowed time.
Angel learns in the end that Buffy is alive again...which may or may not mean an appearance on the show. I mean, you drop a bombshell on a guy that his lover is dead, then another that she's up and around again, you can't very well not follow it up, right?
Also, this raises an interesting question: "Angel" is shown eating a breakfast burrito...which means he is able to take food, after all. I thought his body couldn't digest it, but here he consumes food and wine with no ill effects. So Angel is able to eat normally if he needs to...he just doesn't have the hunger.
All in all, a much lighter and faster-paced ep than last week's, which was actually almost painful to watch, what with both Gunn and his old friend struggling with internal demons...and a couple of external ones. Also nice to see a little of what's going on with the new blood (so to speak) at Wolfram and Hart...and still waiting to see the Darla pregancy followed up on....

Failure
10-16-2001, 02:02 PM
I thought the ep was ok, not great but not bad. I've never been a big fan of body-switching storylines though. I thought last week's episode was much, much better. What's the deal with them not showing previews of the next week's episodes though?

oranthal
10-16-2001, 07:34 PM
that's easy; they want to hurt us.


Originally posted by Failure
I thought the ep was ok, not great but not bad. I've never been a big fan of body-switching storylines though. I thought last week's episode was much, much better. What's the deal with them not showing previews of the next week's episodes though?

killercroc
10-21-2001, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
For those of you who have read Anne Rice, was anyone else thinking of The Body Thief during this episode?
Strange deaths are happening in L.A.--guys are inexplicably falling apart. Literally--they flop down to the floor as a loose pudding of flesh.
Angel and company discover that all the victims were the members of a certain health club and investigate the connection. While Cordy slavers over the hunks, Angel investigates the retirement home across the street after seeing something suspicious in a window. He discovers an old man, Morris, who likes peering at the gym through binoculars. It seems Morris also has an ancient urn, which he uses to possess the bodies of young men. A few words of Latin are uttered, and Angel and Morris' spirit switch bodies.
This leads to some pretty funny stuff: Morriss/Angel thinks his new host body is gay after Cordy tells him he needs to talk to Fred about their "date" the other night, and, assuming Fred is a guy and that Wes is Fred, this paves the way for a very awkward conversation (with homophobic overtones--note how "Angel" pulls away from Wes when he gets too close...and his proper British mannerisms don't help any.). Morris/Fred discovers that he's possessed a vampire after he picks up some dame and almost rips her throat out, then realizes he can't see his face in a mirror. Unfortunately there were a couple of good jokes missed--imagine our unwitting vamp trying to step out in broad daylight and getting baked, or Cordy setting a big tall frosty glass of pig blood down in front of him for lunch. Yummy.
Meantime, Angel/Morris is trapped in the old-folks' home and trying to get out, but between a fat surly orderly and a bum ticker he's pretty much trapped. Morris/Angel comes to him, however, because he wants to know more about what he's gotten himself into--big mistake. By now Gunn, Wes, Fred, and Cordy have figured out what's going on, and trailed the old man--young man--whatever. Another great scene where Fred gets a little overexhuberant while keeping Morris/Angel in check and clocks him a good one on the head with a stick. Eventually everyone gets back into the bodies where they should be...and Morris suffers his fifth heart attack. We don't know if he lives or not, but...all things considered, if he dies, it's his own darn fault for scheming to live off of borrowed time.
Angel learns in the end that Buffy is alive again...which may or may not mean an appearance on the show. I mean, you drop a bombshell on a guy that his lover is dead, then another that she's up and around again, you can't very well not follow it up, right?
Aslo, this raises an interesting question: "Angel" is shown eating a breakfast burrito...which means he is able to take food, after all. I thought his body couldn't digest it, but here he consumes food and wine with no ill effects. So Angel is able to eat normally if he needs to...he just doesn't have the hunger.
All in all, a much lighter and faster-paced ep than last week's, which was actually almost painful to watch, what with both Gunn and his old friend struggling with internal demons...and a couple of external ones. Also nice to see a little of what's going on with the new blood (so to speak) at Wolfram and Hart...and still waiting to see the Darla pregancy followed up on....

Dude, I can't believe I missed your post. I was thinking the same thing. Of course, in the TTOBT Lestat got to enjoy his human body. Angel didn't really enjoy his. It also reminds me of an old issue of Conan, where a wizard was possessing people.

I wondered about the burrito also. It seemed like he should throw up or something.

Samhaine
10-22-2001, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
Angel learns in the end that Buffy is alive again...which may or may not mean an appearance on the show. I mean, you drop a bombshell on a guy that his lover is dead, then another that she's up and around again, you can't very well not follow it up, right?
Just wanted to make a quick comment on this. On Tuesday's Buffy, she gets a call from Angel, and says she has to meet him. "Not Sunnydale. Not LA. Somewhere in the middle." Meaning that it'll probably be off screen. :(

Salvor
10-22-2001, 01:25 PM
It will be offscreen. Angel can't appear on Buffy anymore, and Buffy can't appear on Angel either... different channels, different rules...

I thought that ep was enjoyable btw. It was nice to see Angel act so weird.

Nightwing
10-22-2001, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
Aslo, this raises an interesting question: "Angel" is shown eating a breakfast burrito...which means he is able to take food, after all. I thought his body couldn't digest it, but here he consumes food and wine with no ill effects. So Angel is able to eat normally if he needs to...he just doesn't have the hunger.


Good observation, although we've known this for a while. It's been hinted in at least two episodes (that I can remember off the top of my head, so there might be more) where the fact was mentioned that Angel can in fact eat, but has no need to, since his body doesn't process it, and he can't taste it (also mentioned before).

So, with that, MY only question was, did our old body snatching friend realize he couldn't taste anything he ate?


Morris/Angel thinks his new host body is gay after Cordy tells him he needs to talk to Fred about their "date" the other night, and, assuming Fred is a guy and that Wes is Fred, this paves the way for a very awkward conversation (with homophobic overtones--note how "Angel" pulls away from Wes when he gets too close...and his proper British mannerisms don't help any.).

Awkward? I must be insensitive because I was laughing through the whole thing!!! :D I mean when we saw the types of bodies this guy stole, you can tell he was the insensitive, answering only to his hormones, sexist type. So obviously hilarity is going to ensue. Wesley on the other hand just seemed confused. lol!

killercroc
10-23-2001, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Salvor
It will be offscreen. Angel can't appear on Buffy anymore, and Buffy can't appear on Angel either... different channels, different rules...

I thought that ep was enjoyable btw. It was nice to see Angel act so weird.

Actually, Whedon hasn't ruled out the possibility. He said it probably wouldn't happen, but could.

Salvor
10-23-2001, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by killercroc


Actually, Whedon hasn't ruled out the possibility. He said it probably wouldn't happen, but could.
It's not what I read. The article made it plain that contracts hampered the making of new crossovers... well hopefully the journalist was wrong.