X-Men: Evolution = Cancelled

[Stu]

Hey

X-Men's departure from both the KidsWB! and Cartoon Networks schedules has more or less confirmed its future. There was no mention of the show on any of the press releases, and there has been no word on it since its rumoured dimise last month.

And it's not looking very good for MTV Spider-Man at all...

Comments?

[Cyber E.]

Pardon my ignorance, but wasn't this pretty much confirmed last month, not just rumored? I could have sworn one of the higher-ups confirmed it.

[Dr.Zar]

Pardon my ignorance, but wasn't this pretty much confirmed last month, not just rumored? I could have sworn one of the higher-ups confirmed it.
It was all but confirmed last month, talk about old news...

[JTurner954]

X-men Evolution on CN was a real treat for me since I usually missed the episodes on Kids WB mornings. I was hoping they would show some new-to-CN episodes, but I suppose I'll have to buy those unaired episodes on DVD (if they are ever made).

[Lyranfan]

Checking the Cartoon Network schedule this morning, Wed Mar 10 had the episode 'Under Lock and Key' from midway in season 3, then Thurs Mar 11 restarts the cycle from the beginning at 'Strategy X' the very first episode.

At the rate of speed the DVDs are coming out, anyone who missed the seasons 3 and 4 shows will be asking their grandkids to buy the DVDs for them. :D

[LTFan]

I was hoping they'd at least run through the rest of the show before dropping it altogether. My WB affiliate SUCKS!!! If the sound isn't screwed up, it's the picture. I was looking forward to the last episodes being shown on CN so I could tape them, but I guess that was too much to hope for. I don't suppose there's anything WE can do to convince them to finish airing the show beyond Under Lock And Key. An e-mail writing campaign, perhaps? They wouldn't listen though, would they?

[krazymed]

You'll see them eventually, just not anytime soon. At the very least, before X3 comes out.


I think some people asked WB if X-men Evo was coming back, and they said no.

[Sandoz]

I was hoping they'd at least run through the rest of the show before dropping it altogether. My WB affiliate SUCKS!!! If the sound isn't screwed up, it's the picture. I was looking forward to the last episodes being shown on CN so I could tape them, but I guess that was too much to hope for. I don't suppose there's anything WE can do to convince them to finish airing the show beyond Under Lock And Key. An e-mail writing campaign, perhaps? They wouldn't listen though, would they?
I don't think it's a case of CN sitting on Season 4 saying, "nyah nyah, you can't have it." They might not have the rights to it or Kids' WB might not have given them the tapes (though they should, since they're not doing anything with them). A writing campaign could let them know that there is interest out there, but I don't know if it would do any good.

[Discloner]

Hey

And it's not looking very good for MTV Spider-Man at all...

Comments?
On the contrary...

With Toonami's shift to Teens, the the lack of a large library of Teen shows, and MTV's Spider-man a Teen show in the market. I think the chances of CN aquiring it for the block are more likely then ever.

[Sandman]

On the contrary...

With Toonami's shift to Teens, the the lack of a large library of Teen shows, and MTV's Spider-man a Teen show in the market. I think the chances of CN aquiring it for the block are more likely then ever.
I disagree. Back in November, Marvel said they were looking to get Spiderman on a channel where more kids could see it. Basically Spiderman without the MTV influence and aimed at 6-11 year olds. So far we haven’t heard a thing about that, and at that same briefing we were told Evo was a continuing series on WB Kids. So you can take that for what it’s worth. So could Toonami air the only season of MTV Spiderman? Well if Toonami is going for teens then MTV Spiderman would be a bad fit since I don’t consider MTV Spiderman to be a teen show. It was definitely aimed more at 18-34 year olds and would have to be edited to air on Toonami. Not worth the hassle for a show many didn't like to begin with. Evo would be a better Toonami fit, but CN might have already burned it out.

[Discloner]

Evo would be a better Toonami fit, but CN might have already burned it out.
Heh, I'll disagree with that as well. :p

IMO, Evo is better suited for the batch of kids who'll be watching Teen Titans, basically the new Miguzi block. Toonami will be looking for more mature programming. Atleast if they're really serious about this middleground block thing.

[Zebi]

X-Men's departure from both the KidsWB! and Cartoon Networks schedules has more or less confirmed its future. There was no mention of the show on any of the press releases, and there has been no word on it since its rumoured dimise last month.I just got my copy of Powers Revealed last night, and it was really disappointing to come home and see the confirmation of X-Men: Evolution having been cancelled. :sad: I'm not surprised that KidsWB! let it go so quickly (they were pretty quick to get rid of Men in Black once it was cancelled), but I was really hoping that Cartoon Network would have kept it - it could either go to Toonami, which is moving to Saturdays, or to Miguzi, the new block created to replace Toonami on the weekdays (check the news thread on the Toonami board).

And it's not looking very good for MTV Spider-Man at all...
Have there there been any news? :confused: I think MTV should re-air this show. Right now, they're showing an anime, Heat Guy J, on MTV-2. If they haven't paired it with another animated show, Spider-Man would fit nicely to make an hour block of animation. They'd be likely to get a good turn-out for that hour - both shows are action oriented, and chances are that fans of both genres tuning in to watch. But of course, MTV doesn't learn a darned thing - they are airing Heat Guy J out of order, like they did with Spider-Man, and are apparently even skipping episodes. :rolleyes:

I really, really would like to see Spider-Man and X-Men:Evolution moved to a station like Cartoon Network, where they'd be more likely to get proper treatment.

[Stu]

On the contrary...

With Toonami's shift to Teens, the the lack of a large library of Teen shows, and MTV's Spider-man a Teen show in the market. I think the chances of CN aquiring it for the block are more likely then ever.

But, with Spider-Man not being on thier scheduale, and the sequel being right around the corner? It takes Mainframe ages to get animate the thing, but still, the chances seem to be very slim right?

[Alex Toon]

I hope this is false. If so, my friend at school will be very angry.

[Discloner]

But, with Spider-Man not being on thier scheduale, and the sequel being right around the corner? It takes Mainframe ages to get animate the thing, but still, the chances seem to be very slim right?Well, when Cartoon Network releases their initative each year, they don't announce EVERYTHING they'll wind up aquiring that year. A good example is Cyborg 009, which CN didn't announce in February of 2003, yet it still showed up later that year.

The Press Release for the new Toonami even mentions "Cartoon Network will also acquire new action and animé series for Toonami, some of which will be introduced to U.S. audiences for the first time. ", Which basically means they can, and more then likely will, aquire other series throughout the year to showcase on the block. With some 13 odd episodes, Spiderman seems like it could very well be a great fit, since the shows on Toonami will only be airing once a week. It isn't too long of a series and it isn't too short of a series.

As for Mainframe's ability to make more episodes...well...not that they nessisarily would. But if they did it may take them some time yes. I mean, they're working diligently on Pop-eye right now, apparently Inspector Gadget as well, along with whatever Barbie feature they're working on and the various other promised shows that have been in development for ages. Its very hard to determine what Mainframe has abandoned, what they're currently focused on, and what they have planned for the future...so new Episodes could or couldn't be a possibility, if CN wanted them in the first place.

[Stu]

Are CN likely to pick it up, do you think? It got huge ratings on MTV, I think the DVD sold well, and, for the general audience, it was recieved as a critical success. If they do pick it up, I think MTV would be stupid not to buy new episodes.

But the fanboy in me just wants to see Mind Games resolved :(

[Discloner]

I personally don't see why they wouldn't pick it up. From where I stand it looks like a perfect fit for the direction that apparently CN wants to take the Toonami block. Whether or not they will is to be seen. Guess we'll just have to sit back and wait...and hope.

(I'd love to see the Mind Games cliffhanger of sorts to be resolved. HOWEVER, I'd very much rather Mainframe resolve their other evil cliffhanger first :rolleyes: )

[LTFan]

I don't think it's a case of CN sitting on Season 4 saying, "nyah nyah, you can't have it." They might not have the rights to it or Kids' WB might not have given them the tapes (though they should, since they're not doing anything with them). A writing campaign could let them know that there is interest out there, but I don't know if it would do any good.
I'm going to try anyway. I was at the Warner Bros. site and looked at their message boards under "comics-cartoons" and A LOT of people have posted wanting X-Men Evo. to return for another season. I'm a little more realistic. All I want is for the episodes after Under Lock And Key to air on CN. I'll be starting a thread on that board soon and see if I can get some support going. Since The WB, Cartoon Network, Warner Bros., etc are all owned by the same company, maybe someone will listen and at least finish airing the show's final episodes. If I can find a way to begin a writing campaign, I'll do that too. When I begin my thread, I'll let everyone here know so they can post if they want to. You never know.

[nocturne]

:( My cousin and i have been discussing this for a while. what are we gonna do with out it? First the original series was taken off the air, then it came back when the movie came out. Again it was cancelled. Then we had Evolution.............sigh. Will we never get our fill of our favorite X-people?
Oh well............we'll have to just huddle in a crner and cry ourselves to sleep......:sad:

[LTFan]

Ok, I started the post. It's at the Warner Bros. message boards in Comics-Cartoons. It's the newest post so it shouldn't be hard to find. I hope someone at least takes a look at it. Maybe if they see some support for the show, we'll at least see the last episodes again. What they did wasn't fair. I know most people here don't think it'll do any good. All I'm asking is for someone to just go look at it at least. Thanks.

[wilee4]

I think you can forget about Evolution all together. A big obstacle for it was that it was on Kids WB. Had it been on FOX it would have had a better chance. It's a similar problem that Masters of the Universe has - Time Warner doesn't give full support to outside IPs. They don't benefit from the merchandising and licensing opportunities from these products at all. And it has recently come from on high that Evolution is sort of hated by the Marvel execs.

However don't give up hope on another X-Men cartoon in the near future. With X3 in the works it's almost guaranteed. I think that we're more likely to see more Spidey first though and prob Fantastic Four - theres a huge push for FF right now - 5 monthly titles and a movie and games in the works. On top of the movies both of these have new "Marvel Age" titles out targeted towards a youger audience.

[LTFan]

I'm not quite ready to quit yet. I've sent messages to both Kids WB and Cartoon Network about it. It might not do any good, but at least I feel like I'm doing something to show them that fans like the show, even if the execs. do not. Maybe as we get closer to X3 being released, they'll air it again. Maybe not. But either way, I'm not just going to sit here and do nothing and let them believe that there aren't any fans of the show at all. If anyone else wants to send them any messages, but don't know how, feel free to send me an IM and I'll tell you (I don't remember the policy on posting links in the forum). If I'm not online, send me a message anyway and I'll get back to you.

[Sandman]

I think you can forget about Evolution all together. A big obstacle for it was that it was on Kids WB. Had it been on FOX it would have had a better chance. It's a similar problem that Masters of the Universe has - Time Warner doesn't give full support to outside IPs. They don't benefit from the merchandising and licensing opportunities from these products at all. And it has recently come from on high that Evolution is sort of hated by the Marvel execs.

However don't give up hope on another X-Men cartoon in the near future. With X3 in the works it's almost guaranteed. I think that we're more likely to see more Spidey first though and prob Fantastic Four - theres a huge push for FF right now - 5 monthly titles and a movie and games in the works. On top of the movies both of these have new "Marvel Age" titles out targeted towards a youger audience. I was always under the impression that most Marvel execs were very happy with Evo. Avi Arad in particular in his interviews and media briefings. So if you have any information that contradicts that, please pass it along. It is pretty clear that WB Kids pulled the plug and not Marvel. Only 9 episodes ordered for the 4th season. Not even letting season four repeat. Taking the 3rd season off the air before it could even finish. Not airing the rest of the 3rd season in May when X2 came out. Marvel even released a Brotherhood poster to promote it back in May. From the 3rd season on, WB seemed to treat it like a red-headed step child.

There will be another X-Men show in the near future. I just hope they give Greg Johnson and Boyd Kirkland another shot, cause they deserve it.

The one thing I would worry about FF is that the movie is far from a guaranteed success like Spidey or the X-Men. Remember Daredevil and the Hulk? Word about each of their cartoon series disappeared when the movies didn’t exactly light up the box office and got poor reviews. I think any good network exec would wait to see how the movie does before signing off on any FF cartoon series. And right now Marvel doesn't seem to have any outlet to air their shows anyway. You would think that they could make a deal with Fox.

[wilee4]

It is WB that's pulling the plug but Marvel doesn't really want it either. I'm a designer at Marvel and some important people are very unhappy with the show.

I actually came onto these boards to see how people were feeling about the show since I had something in the works for our website for it that I was recently told prob won't happen.

Personally I'm not a fan of it myself though I admit to having given up on it rather quickly - and I'm not really the audience for the show anyway. I did enjoy the animation, just not the premise. However I would really like to see the show continue - we need long term exposure in a consistant format for kids to latch onto.

You should all check out the investors presentations from us - they're posted on the site at http://www.marvel.com/investors/ - they'll really give you a look inside the company's thinking for the next few years. There's also a good article over at filmforce.net on Kids WB and CNs upcoming plans.

I have no idea why we don't work with FOX - it's obviously the best choice.

And please don't think I had anything to do with the crap site design we have now. Check out the subs area for what the site will soon resemble.

[Stu]

I'd like to see Marvel have something on thier site about their animated properties. The main reason I work hard on our Marvel site is that, because basically, there are no other Marvel animated sites out there. No good ones anyway.

I'd like to see their opinion on MTV's Spider-Man. With thier recent animated offerings, I for one don't think that Marvel showed as much support as they could've. I myself, for example, was first introduced to many, if not all of the characters I currently care about through the various cartoons Marvel showed in the 90's.

X-Men: Evolution is one of thier main outlets to kids. If I where them I would be fighting to keep the show going, it's not a brilliant show, I'll admit, but I think it improved leaps and bounds as it continued.

[Obsidian]

It is WB that's pulling the plug but Marvel doesn't really want it either. I'm a designer at Marvel and some important people are very unhappy with the show.

Do you know any particular reason why? :( I really hope it isn't because it's not rabidly loyal to the comics...

I actually came onto these boards to see how people were feeling about the show since I had something in the works for our website for it that I was recently told prob won't happen.

I loved it despite the fact it was aimed at an audience many years younger than myself. The writers did a fine job of putting in plenty of elements that appealed to older fans while still keeping with the 6-11 target audience. And I hope whatever you were working on does happen.

Personally I'm not a fan of it myself though I admit to having given up on it rather quickly - and I'm not really the audience for the show anyway. I did enjoy the animation, just not the premise. However I would really like to see the show continue - we need long term exposure in a consistant format for kids to latch onto.

The quality of the animation was what drew me in in the first place. It was lovely and of a style that's too rare on TV(Disney's Gargoyles was the only other show I know of in recent years that had that nice, realistic look to it.) "Mainstream", "Impact", and "Target X" in particular had animation and artwork that were nothing short of breathtaking.

I would dearly love to see it return, but perhaps not *exactly* as how it was. I think the X-Men-as-teens premise should be played down or eliminated, and have the show simply focus on them as mutants, and gear the show towards an older audience. And it should definetly keep the elements that make it it's own show and not just another comic carbon copy(angry Wanda; egocentric, effeminate love-to-hate-him Pietro; evil Gambit, Lance/Kitty; etc.)

Anyway, those are my thoughts, thanks for reading. :)

[Sandman]

Thanks for the info, and I appreciate you coming here. I am also curious as to what made the execs unhappy with the show? Usually when suits are unhappy, it has to do with money. With its quality animation, Evo was not cheap to produce. And Marvel was never known for high quality animation in its shows to begin with. But I think they are making a huge mistake not supporting this show. Film Roman could not have done a better job. No wonder they are having to relaunch all of their comics. Sounds like they need some new blood in there.


I actually came onto these boards to see how people were feeling about the show since I had something in the works for our website for it that I was recently told prob won't happen. I hope that works out. Since they are selling the DVD's, you'd think they would still want to promote it. You should probably check out a few other animation boards where Evo has an even bigger presence. You’d be surprised by how passionate its fans are. I doubt those execs are even aware of its popularity and the size of its fandom.

While it is not an accurate way to judge popularity, the amount of fanfiction written about Evo is interesting. It easily outnumbers both the X-Men comics and movies. If someone takes the time to write fanfiction about something, it generally means they are hooked into the product. They’ll be your most loyal customer.

So you can say Evo accomplished something that many other Marvel properties are having a hard time doing these days. It connected with people. Particularly younger people and girls. Two segments of society Marvel could certainly use as customers.

[LTFan]

Thanks for the info, and I appreciate you coming here. I am also curious as to what made the execs unhappy with the show? Usually when suits are unhappy, it has to do with money. With its quality animation, Evo was not cheap to produce. And Marvel was never known for high quality animation in its shows to begin with. But I think they are making a huge mistake not supporting this show. Film Roman could not have done a better job. No wonder they are having to relaunch all of their comics. Sounds like they need some new blood in there.


I hope that works out. Since they are selling the DVD's, you'd think they would still want to promote it. You should probably check out a few other animation boards where Evo has an even bigger presence. You’d be surprised by how passionate its fans are. I doubt those execs are even aware of its popularity and the size of its fandom.

While it is not an accurate way to judge popularity, the amount of fanfiction written about Evo is interesting. It easily outnumbers both the X-Men comics and movies. If someone takes the time to write fanfiction about something, it generally means they are hooked into the product. They’ll be your most loyal customer.

So you can say Evo accomplished something that many other Marvel properties are having a hard time doing these days. It connected with people. Particularly younger people and girls. Two segments of society Marvel could certainly use as customers.

Where are some of those boards? I wanna see what some others are saying about it. I was posting on one, but the site's account has been suspended for about 3 days.

[Thanos 1530]

I never really like the show anyway bearly watched it. I liked Fox's X-men much better and tried to catch reruns on ABC Fam when the use to air them. It had more atittude, and better dialog. And what really turned me off with Evo is what they did to Omega Reds character and other Villians! I mean Principal Kelly? Come on! And Wolverine was just an old, grumpy olf, with no type of personality or snappy witt at all. Now the last 3 episodes of Evo where not bad but that's only because for once they didn't focus on what Cyclops & Jean was gonna wear to the prom and other lame plots that made me sick. I know it was targeted for kids but it still could have been better. Marvel execs. if your listening GIVE THE BALL BACK TO FOX!!! Looking at that foxbox lineup, I doubt they'll drop you.

[Pyro]

With X-Men: Evo and MTV Spider-Man gone, both of which I loved dearly :( , I'm not too worried. The new Batman series, even with Batman currently in JL, shows me how possible it is for another X-Men or Spider-Man cartoon to come out soon.

[wilee4]

i think, and this is pretty much just educated speculation, that the merchandising related to the show did pretty poorly, and i know that the comic did very poorly. that coupled with the general concensus that the show is a very poor representation of the comics and an extreme departure from the films is generating negative buzz for it. i'm sorry but i don't want to quote names - i like working there :)

the sites you guys have for the shows are awesome and theres no way marvel would ever put that kind of work into a web presence for their cartoons. hell, we don't even have a siteor area for Marvel Studios which is a complete joke! we are working feverishly on a redesign for the site but don't expect them to ever ok an area for cartoons. what i'd like to see is an official fan links area of the site to sites that cover this material but that will never happen because of legal.

there is some good news in that my project for evo might not be completely dead. so there may possibly be a really, really cool evo feature on the site this summer. i can't give details yet but i'll post here after my presentation in april and i'll make sure that beyond evo is the first site to get the news.

[All-Star 1.5]

I was always under the impression that most Marvel execs were very happy with Evo. Avi Arad in particular in his interviews and media briefings. So if you have any information that contradicts that, please pass it along. It is pretty clear that WB Kids pulled the plug and not Marvel. Only 9 episodes ordered for the 4th season. Not even letting season four repeat. Taking the 3rd season off the air before it could even finish. Not airing the rest of the 3rd season in May when X2 came out. Marvel even released a Brotherhood poster to promote it back in May. From the 3rd season on, WB seemed to treat it like a red-headed step child.

And right now Marvel doesn't seem to have any outlet to air their shows anyway. You would think that they could make a deal with Fox.

Well generally speaking X-Men Evolution doesn't do "great ratings" when it comes to reruns on KWB. I think most of that blame falls on CN because they reran the series to death when they got it. They probably wanted to round off the series with a nice number for syndication.

Other then KWB the only other place they can take it is probably CN. Because Fox sold it's Saturday morning slot to 4Kids and if you have ever seen the Fox Box then you will notice that nothing airs on the block except for 4Kids properties.So I doubt it could have one there.

[Lyranfan]

Speaking as one of the older fans around here (I'm in early 40's - read my first X-Men comic in mid 60s and was immediately hooked), thanks for sharing your insights. I've got a mid twenties coworker that I shared a bunch of links with since I found out she was an Evo fan too.

I was really pleased with the concept and delivery of the X-Men Evo series. It's a shame that it sound like the merchandising missteps poisoned the longevity of the cartoon.

There is still a large fanbase out there and we'd support any future projects

[LTFan]

I'm still campaigning for the re-airing of the final season on Kid's WB or it's first airing on CN. I'm trying to get some more fans organized on another forum I found. And wilee, before you tell me about the futility of what I'm doing, let me just say "It it better to light a candle, than to curse the darkness".

[wilee4]

I would never say that anything like that is futile. And I have no idea what goes on the minds of anyone at CN or Kids WB than anyone else here would. I think petitions are a great way to prove support for anything. The one at He-Man.org had a tremedous effect.


I'm still campaigning for the re-airing of the final season on Kid's WB or it's first airing on CN. I'm trying to get some more fans organized on another forum I found. And wilee, before you tell me about the futility of what I'm doing, let me just say "It it better to light a candle, than to curse the darkness".

[LTFan]

I would never say that anything like that is futile. And I have no idea what goes on the minds of anyone at CN or Kids WB than anyone else here would. I think petitions are a great way to prove support for anything. The one at He-Man.org had a tremedous effect.
I'm sorry for jumping on you like that. If you wanna add your voice to ours, I have a link to an online petition that already has 5,392 signatures. From what you've said before, it sounds like you don't think the show was given a fair shake either.

[Kurt]

Hello, everyone! I am yet another saddened fan of X-men: Evolution, and I wanted to let everyone know that I share the pain. However, I suppose if there was better closure provided for the show, I would have felt a little better. I feared the end of the series as soon as I watched the last episode, Ascension II, when Xavier gave his speech on the future of the X-men. I do believe that X-men will be reincarnated, but probably not as the Evolution series we all have enjoyed. Oh well, those are just my thoughts. Let me know what you think.

[Westlander]

Oh great. Let's go drinking and mourning XME. It seems nobody knows nothing, we have only shreds of info here...
Originally posted by Obsidian
evil Gambit
Gambit's more like, to put it D&D'ish, Chaotic Neutral. He worked for Magneto because he was paid for it - anyway, what did you expect from a thief?

[Sandoz]

Gambit's more like, to put it D&D'ish, Chaotic Neutral. He worked for Magneto because he was paid for it - anyway, what did you expect from a thief?
Well, some people expected him to join the X-Men and make googly-eyes at Rogue. I'll take the mercenary-for-hire Gambit, personally.

[Westlander]

Sandoz wrote:
Well, some people expected him to join the X-Men and make googly-eyes at Rogue. I'll take the mercenary-for-hire Gambit, personally.
As some know from the comics, Gambit did some odd jobs for Mr Sinister, so seeing him on the wrong side isn't so shocking - well, everyone went back in time :D .
As a curiosity, I can tell that before Sinister reduced his powers, Gambit was able to fly, turn into energy and shoot energy bolts without resorting to cards, stones or chains.

[spyke]

i think, and this is pretty much just educated speculation, that the merchandising related to the show did pretty poorly, and i know that the comic did very poorly. that coupled with the general concensus that the show is a very poor representation of the comics and an extreme departure from the films is generating negative buzz for it. i'm sorry but i don't want to quote names - i like working there :)

the sites you guys have for the shows are awesome and theres no way marvel would ever put that kind of work into a web presence for their cartoons. hell, we don't even have a siteor area for Marvel Studios which is a complete joke! we are working feverishly on a redesign for the site but don't expect them to ever ok an area for cartoons. what i'd like to see is an official fan links area of the site to sites that cover this material but that will never happen because of legal.

there is some good news in that my project for evo might not be completely dead. so there may possibly be a really, really cool evo feature on the site this summer. i can't give details yet but i'll post here after my presentation in april and i'll make sure that beyond evo is the first site to get the news.

I have a few questions for you.

1. How did the suits at marvel feel about the x-men evolution cartoon adapting or reflecting aspects of Morrison's run on NXM and Millar's Ultimate X-Men? I'm talking about things like the school,Prof X,and the rest of the x-men's secret identities being "outed" on national tv,taking Wolverine out of his very cool looking orange and black spandex x-men evo costume and putting him in that crappy and borring Ultimate X-Men costume,the sudden exploding mutant population,and the whole silly premis/idea that the x-men are not allowed to stop crimes that do not involve mutants. I hated both Morrison and Millar's take on the x-men in the comics and I hated that x-men evo started to reflect their ideas in the cartoon. I personally beleave, that this hurt the show both creatively and ratings wise, although, not by much.

2. How did the marvel suits feel about Spyke?

3. How much creative input did Quesada and Jemas have in the show? I know they were the ones who pushed for Wolvie's maskless blue and gold/yellow ultimate x-men costume that he wore in the last 2 seasons of the series.

4. Do you know if marvel is planning to make another x-men cartoon?

[Spider-Man]

One thing I liked in the final episode is that we got to see Magneto as a teacher to the students in the school. I wonder if this is a homage to when Magneto was temporarily a teacher to the X-Men in the 1980's. Does anyone know exactly when Magneto decided to teach in the comics? This would have been a neat role on Magneto's part, and a cool twist in the series.

[Sandoz]

Does anyone know exactly when Magneto decided to teach in the comics? This would have been a neat role on Magneto's part, and a cool twist in the series.
He decided to teach not long after the New Mutants were formed. He was rethinking his life after he wounded Kitty in battle (as she was a young, innocent mutant like the ones he had vowed to protect) and when Xavier had to leave the Institute due to health problems he called his old friend to take his place.

[psifreek28]

this really stinks...especially considering Xmen Evo. Helped KidsWB! massively when it came to winning over the saturday ratings...Evo. was always 1 or 2 for the morning...WB will realize their mistake when same time this year their ratings begin to be less than stellar compared to when xmen was there...i mean is it just me or havent u guys noticed kidsWB has been very lackluster for the past good couple of months...lord know i havent seen it since the evo series/season finale....

[TruLeyRogue]

if we got enough people to request a 5th season to Cartoon network, maybe they'll do it. I've pretty much given up on WB.. they make me so Arghh:mad: . anyway, i'm sure cartoon network could be smart enough to know that if we really wanted it.. then it would bring there ratings up:shrug: . i hope.

[Spider-Man]

if we got enough people to request a 5th season to Cartoon network, maybe they'll do it. I've pretty much given up on WB.. they make me so Arghh:mad: . anyway, i'm sure cartoon network could be smart enough to know that if we really wanted it.. then it would bring there ratings up:shrug: . i hope.
It's hard to say if they would. It would have to be incredibly profitable and in-expensive to make. From my understanding, X-Men: Evolution had a fair budget to work with. Plus, Marvel owns the X-Men name, so would it be up to them to decide where the show would go, if continued?