What a bunch of bull (YGO Uncut)

[Yash]

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And in case anyone agrees, I'd like to know how 4Kids could buy the rights to Pokemon's original music when they first started out, but can't now even though they have at least 10 times as much profit as they did before.

[MrBananagrabber]

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And in case anyone agrees, I'd like to know how 4Kids could buy the rights to Pokemon's original music when they first started out, but can't now even though they have at least 10 times as much profit as they did before.

Why is it bull that the music is too expensive? If it doesn't seem like a good choice to spend money on (They don't think they'll make the money back), then why should the company go out and buy it? It sucks for Yugioh fans, yes, but from a business perspective, you can't blame them.

[lostrune]

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And in case anyone agrees, I'd like to know how 4Kids could buy the rights to Pokemon's original music when they first started out, but can't now even though they have at least 10 times as much profit as they did before.

Um... maybe now that Yugioh is a megahit, the music licenses also cost 10x as much?

[Cyporiean]

They didn't get all of the pokemon music you know, just the BGM from the games.. which helps people remember and thus buy said Games, which makes Nintendo Happy.

YGO is a card game... Card games don't have BGM...



Music rights is also the reason MACROSS 7 is not licensed.

[Jaguar]

YGO is a card game... Card games don't have BGM...
YGO is a show that spawned a card game (and multiple video games).

Pokemon is a video game that spawned a show that spawned a card game.

Hmm.

[Yash]

Why is it bull that the music is too expensive? If it doesn't seem like a good choice to spend money on (They don't think they'll make the money back), then why should the company go out and buy it? It sucks for Yugioh fans, yes, but from a business perspective, you can't blame them.

Hmm. Perhaps it doesn't have to deal with the fact that they're a multi-million dollar company and would make more than enough cash to make up for it than they would if they only released Edited DVDs?

Nah, probably not :rolleyes:

[EscaflownePilot]

They didn't get all of the pokemon music you know, just the BGM from the games.. which helps people remember and thus buy said Games, which makes Nintendo Happy.

YGO is a card game... card games don't have BGM...If that's true, then why is 4Kids changing the music in Pokemon: Advanced (aside from occasionally using the instrumental of the Japanese opening) including the BGM based on tracks from the video game? At this point, the music in the English dub of the anime doesn't even resemble the video games like it's Japanese counterpart does - so neither Nintendo nor 4Kids must be concerned with that part of it.

Although I suppose it's possible that Yu-Gi-Oh! just doesn't seem profitable enough to FUNimation for them to buy the music rights to (in all actuality, Yu-Gi-Oh! is usually placed right next to Pokemon in the minds of your average teen/adult anime fan) you should also look at Dragon Ball GT - if I remember correctly, about the only buzz you heard from anime fans before it was licensed was that it sucked. Hard. Most everybody who saw it hated it, and aside from it's very few fans out there, I'm sure that FUNimation could count on the fact that your average subbie wouldn't be that interested in this show uncut (this is also why the dub turned out like it did). But they still found it profitable to buy the music rights to release the show in Japanese form on DVD.

Now, Dragon Ball GT isn't much different from Yu-Gi-Oh! - they aren't at all like a show such as Macross 7, where the entire show revolves around and is driven by the music. Of course the music in a show like Macross 7 would be expensive - but Yu-Gi-Oh! is far from Macross 7, and I can't for the life of me figure out why the music rights to Yu-Gi-Oh! would be any different from DBGT. Fact is, even if Yu-Gi-Oh! ain't that big amongst anime fans, it isn't much different from DBGT, which they did deem profitable enough amongst anime fans to buy the music to.

I'll admit that this is possibly the reason we don't have Yu-Gi-Oh! uncut, but I highly doubt it. I mean, haven't we already been supplied with, like, 2 excuses from FUNimation prior to this one (the most probable of them being that they just couldn't convince 4Kids to consent).

And, seriously, we all know 4Kids has a problem with uncut releases. If ever there was going to be a problem with getting Yu-Gi-Oh! uncut, you'd think 4Kids would be the problem well before FUNimation would get to discussing music rights. If 4Kids actually would consent to uncut releases, we'd at least have things like Ultimate Muscle on the way in Japanese form.

So, really, I have no choice but to beleive that this is bull. It may be true, but at the very least the lack of FUNimation putting the blame on 4Kids tells me they aren't giving us every reason they can't realease Yu-Gi-Oh! uncut.

[DarthNuriko]

It sounds like a big stinky load to me.

[Sprocket]

It's Yu-gi-Oh. Who cares?

I can't bring myself to care about something that's directed by the guy who directed the Tekken movie.

[MattThomasM2B]

It's Yu-gi-Oh. Who cares?

I can't bring myself to care about something that's directed by the guy who directed the Tekken movie.Lol. Now that you mentioned that, I start to see the similarities between the Tekken movie and the whole Pegasus arc.

Competitors on an island....they fight on it.....all that stuff.

[Yash]

It's Yu-gi-Oh. Who cares?Oh, no one really.

Well, besides the people who actually *gasp* like this show and want to see a friggin' Uncut release after 3 ******* YEARS but hey, who gives a flying **** about them?

[Jaguar]

Obviously no one.

Not that I'm saying I don't want uncut YGO DVDs (believe me, I wouldn't mind seeing a better version of Battle City) but it's just an uphill battle.

[Killtacular]

I don't understand. So they can't get the original music. But that doesn't seem to correlate at all with any of the other changes to Yu-Gi-Oh, such as removing weapons, removing concept of death, and etcetera.

Try and see if this makes sense:
"We can't put the weapons back in, because we can't buy the rights to music."

o_O

[Moal]

Two words for those who are interested, and only to those who are interested: Region Two.

[Arxane]

Try and see if this makes sense:
"We can't put the weapons back in, because we can't buy the rights to music." Okay, I'll try:

The stuff edited from "Yu-Gi-Oh!" doesn't just consist of removing of weapons and death from scenes; it involves removing of entire scenes altogether. Therefore, to get an uncut release of "Yu-Gi-Oh!", all of the removed scenes and other stuff needs to be put back in. But because the episodes are now longer (or shorter, whatever) than the edited versions, the Americanized music doesn't fit anymore. Thus they need the original music...unless people like hearing the series in agonizing music-less silence.

Make sense? No? Hey, I tried... :sweat:

[FerrariCake]

It's Yu-gi-Oh. Who cares?
I do, dammit.

[Deadly Messiah]

4Kids is the reason we aren't getting Subbed Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs! Besides, there is nothing about the music they can charge for. There is no real singing except the opening and closings.

[MattThomasM2B]

And while we're on music.....not to hijack or anything.

After being able to finally take a look at all of the japanese Pokemon openings....god we get screwed out of such good music. (Even if I can't understand a lick of it.....)

[livingfruitvirus]

Two words for those who are interested, and only to those who are interested: Region Two.
and $60 a disc

[Deadly Messiah]

and $60 a disc
NO, it isn't. You are thinking about the price for Sentai dvds. Yu-Gi-Oh! is 3800 Yen, which is around $36, which is just close to buying a Funimation DVD, only you get 4 eps instead of 3. Vol 12 has 5 eps, so that is 4800 Yen, and VOl 13 has 3 eps, so that is 2800 Yen. Go to www.animejungle.com (http://www.animejungle.com) because they have deals on used dvds. Right now they only have Vol13, which is 1300 Yen.