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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Lucario

    I think it's more likely that the 4Kids dub would available online since there's only one complete dub out of the three series. Plus, they would need to get as much money as they could by putting the uncut dubs on DVD. Funimation didn't do that. They completely redubbed the seasons 4Kids did and didn't re-release the 4Kids version. I'm sure that the 4Kids dubs would be available online, but I don't know if there's a good chance anything besides the DM dub and Bonds Beyond Time being released on DVD.
    No that wouldn't be fair to the 4kids who have been loyal to the dub for the last 10 years. I believe that it would be the same without Dan green as yugi. And it Be more reasonable if they subbed instead of redubbing the whole thing. Have the 4kids dub online like Is good but they also need to provide the DVD realeases to the loyal longtime fans. Companies these days need to think cheap money spending in this economy if they want to stay alive. One piece was an exception because the 4kids dub was absolutely horrible and jumped a lot of episodes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom View Post
    No that wouldn't be fair to the 4kids who have been loyal to the dub for the last 10 years. I believe that it would be the same without Dan green as yugi. And it Be more reasonable if they subbed instead of redubbing the whole thing. Have the 4kids dub online like Is good but they also need to provide the DVD realeases to the loyal longtime fans. Companies these days need to think cheap money spending in this economy if they want to stay alive. One piece was an exception because the 4kids dub was absolutely horrible and jumped a lot of episodes too.
    Considering that in the span of ten years, there has only been one complete dub out of three Yu-Gi-Oh! series, I don't think that there has been that much fairness for people who have only watched the dub to begin with. I have my doubts that there are a lot of loyal longtime fans of the dub considering that the later DVD releases, especially for GX, were clearly doing so poorly that 4Kids didn't even bother trying to have DVDs for 5D's. Although, their really poor financial state didn't help them out in that regard either, but if there were a significant number of loyal fans of the dub, then the sales would have been better and they could have at least made some effort to get a DVD release for all of their dubbed episodes. The closest they got was with DM and despite being the only successful Yu-Gi-Oh! series, it still has an incomplete DVD release. At least the demand for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! eventually led to the legal subs and possibly the inclusion the subbed version of the anniversary movie in the UK DVD release. I like Dan Green and I thought that he did a good job as Yugi, but I'm more than willing to see if another actor could do well in that role. At least he wouldn't be replaced during the show's production, unlike with the original cast of Pokemon, and depending on where the new company is located, he may not be able to get the role anyway. I just would like to see a more faithful dub of the past three series.

    Another reason why I don't think that the 4Kids dubs would be released on DVD is due to GX and 5D's. Neither series actually has a sense of conclusion, although I'll give 4Kids credit with their attempt to provide some closure in their finale for 5D's, they didn't have good ratings and neither were that popular. The DM dub has the best chance to be re-released due to being the only successful Yu-Gi-Oh! series thus far, but even then I think it's more likely that they'll put them online instead. The new company wouldn't want to take the time and money necessary to re-release a series only to for it to tank. Given that the history of dub Yu-Gi-Oh! on DVD has, I doubt that the re-releases would actually sell well. I'm sure that whoever gets the license will release the anniversary movie and maybe the DM dub at best, but even then I have my doubts about the latter. When I mentioned about actually getting DVDs when this announcement first came up, I was thinking about DVDs for the current and future series, the anniversary movie and hopefully redubs at some point.

    I know that making a redub would take much more money than re-release the dub and I don't know how many times I've said that I know it isn't too likely to happen, but I think that there is a larger audience for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! than there is for the dubs. There were those few uncut DVD releases from a few years ago, which were only stopped due to the Japanese voice actor contract issues and raws of DM were uploaded 4Kids' YouTube Channel, which lead to them subbing 5D's, Zexal and the anniversary movie. The only way that the new company would be willing to redub the three previous series would be if they believed that there is a strong enough demand to warrant those costs and made them believe that they would get plenty of money back. I think that there is a demand for it and depending on who ends up with the license, I think that they could redub the last three series at some point, but that wouldn't be until after they get their own dub for Zexal up off the ground and get money off the ratings and merchandise for that series as well.

    As for One Piece, many people would also say that the DM dub was horrible. I think it was their second worst dub. The main advantage it has over their One Piece dub was that DM was actually successful, although that probably would have been the case regardless of who dubbed it, if only for the card game. Personally, I thought that it was much more watchable with some effort put into the voice acting as well, but that's just me. Though, the One Piece dub gets much more hatred, which is why it was ignored after Funimation got the license, but given the success of the DM dub, it, along with the other 4Kids dubs, will probably be available legally online at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Lucario View Post

    As for One Piece, many people would also say that the DM dub was horrible. I think it was their second worst dub. The main advantage it has over their One Piece dub was that DM was actually successful, although that probably would have been the case regardless of who dubbed it, if only for the card game. Personally, I thought that it was much more watchable with some effort put into the voice acting as well, but that's just me. Though, the One Piece dub gets much more hatred, which is why it was ignored after Funimation got the license, but given the success of the DM dub, it, along with the other 4Kids dubs, will probably be available legally online at some point.
    I've stated this before but if DM mean Duel Monsters I actually think it's one of the far more tolerable 4kids dubs. When I first saw Yu-gi-oh I thought the dubbing was very awkward but then I saw the Japanese version and I realized Yugi's odd pre-puberty voice was similar to Dan Green's performance. The other thing about the dub is despite some odd accents (Joey and Bakura) and overacting most of the voices actually fit the characters and it was nice to see Eric Stuart in a role where he was showing more range than his Brock/Gourry voice. By the time 4kids got to One Piece much of the quality control they had during the Pokemon and YGO era was gone and the dub in and of itself was an unsalvageable mess with glimpses of decent casting (Zoro and Chopper) but overall a complete wreck and going against the bar set by the companies other dubs which were all, at least, watchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O-chan View Post
    I've stated this before but if DM mean Duel Monsters I actually think it's one of the far more tolerable 4kids dubs. When I first saw Yu-gi-oh I thought the dubbing was very awkward but then I saw the Japanese version and I realized Yugi's odd pre-puberty voice was similar to Dan Green's performance. The other thing about the dub is despite some odd accents (Joey and Bakura) and overacting most of the voices actually fit the characters and it was nice to see Eric Stuart in a role where he was showing more range than his Brock/Gourry voice. By the time 4kids got to One Piece much of the quality control they had during the Pokemon and YGO era was gone and the dub in and of itself was an unsalvageable mess with glimpses of decent casting (Zoro and Chopper) but overall a complete wreck and going against the bar set by the companies other dubs which were all, at least, watchable.

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    I agree that their Duel Monsters dub is more tolerable and their is effort put into the voice acting that tends to work out pretty well. I actually like the majority of the voices they chose for the characters. When I said that it was their second worst dub, I was thinking more about how unfaithful it was to the original version with completely changing the bulk of the storyline. Some of it they needed to change, like Mairk's backstory, but many changes were, in retrospect, really unnecessary. One Piece was much worse though.

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    There's no way a company called "Kidsco" is going to do an uncut dub of Yu-Gi-Oh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takao View Post
    There's no way a company called "Kidsco" is going to do an uncut dub of Yu-Gi-Oh!
    The chances aren't too likely, but I don't think it's impossible, especially when a company called 4Kids did end up providing legal subs for two Yu-Gi-Oh! series, uploaded raws of DM before that and had uncut DVDs for a brief time, although I think that Funimation had more to do with that than 4Kids did at the time. Considering the amount of legal subs 4Kids has been able to provide, I don't think it would be a good move for the new company to completely ignore the demand for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! and at some point, if the demand is strong enough, I think redubs could be possible. Though, like I've said many times before, I would be okay with at least legal subs for the various series and I fully recognize that those are more likely to happen than redubs, but I can hope and dream at least.

    Besides that, Kidsco hasn't officially bought the license yet. They're just the first company to bid on the license and for all we know, other companies could bid on it. I'd love for Funimation to pick it up, if only for more stable DVD releases and making the idea of redubs slightly more possible, but I think Viz Media trying to get the license would be more likely. They already license all of the various manga titles and getting the license to the anime would give them more money. Though, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with Viz handling the anime due to their history of dropping shows without ever finishing their series or their DVD releases, but I would hope that they would manage Yu-Gi-Oh! better than that if they did get the license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takao
    There's no way a company called "Kidsco" is going to do an uncut dub of Yu-Gi-Oh!
    I agree with that term. Because even though if there is a demand for subs, I highly doubt that they would just go back to the beginning redub it regardless of the demand because it would cost way to much money. Subbing is cheaper and best business decision! I know that it's not the confirm buyer but since they've been in the talks I think kidsco has a better chance at this. But this of course is my theory! Fans of the show will have to accept that it will never be redubbed, especially since its name is KIDSCO, and it focuses kids brands not for older teens and adults, so I believe its no use no matter what!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom View Post
    I agree with that term. Because even though if there is a demand for subs, I highly doubt that they would just go back to the beginning redub it regardless of the demand because it would cost way to much money. Subbing is cheaper and best business decision! I know that it's not the confirm buyer but since they've been in the talks I think kidsco has a better chance at this. But this of course is my theory! Fans of the show will have to accept that it will never be redubbed, especially since its name is KIDSCO, and it focuses kids brands not for older teens and adults, so I believe its no use no matter what!
    It would be expensive, but if they think it would be worthwhile to spend that much money to gain more profit, then I think that they could do that. While Kidsco are the first company to bid on the license, that still doesn't guarantee them the license. If it did, then 4Kids wouldn't have allowed for other companies to bid on the license and just sealed the deal with Kidsco instead.

    4Kids primarily focuses on kids, but they still ended up making subs for the older fans of some of their shows, so I don't see how it's so impossible for Kidsco, which also primiarly focuses on kids, to continue providing legal subs or redubs. That's why the argument doesn't really work for me at this point. There's clearly a profitable audience for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! and if there wasn't, 4Kids would have stopped their subs for 5D's and Zexal a long time ago. Even if it is cheaper than dubbing an episode, subbing still costs a significant amount of money, which 4Kids couldn't afford to waste away by the time these subs started. I do hope that the next company who gets the license won't go back to ignoring that audience like 4Kids did for a long time. I wouldn't be so negative about the chances of a redub, especially when the chances of releasing the 4Kids dubs of DM, GX and 5D's on DVD are probably even less likely to happen than redubbing those same series. It isn't likely, but I wouldn't say that it's completely impossible and it's never going to happen.

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    Something to note is "KidsCo" is just a name for KidsCo Media Ventures LLC which, like SCG Power Rangers LLC, is just a company for Saban to own the shows (copyrights, trademarks) under. When the press release comes out it will most likely say Saban Brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom View Post
    Okay, I just have a thought. If they were to do an uncut dub and the 4kids dub will still exist, what if they release in 2 DVD formats? One uncut DVD and the other 4kids DVD format. It's just like what funimation did as well. What are thoughts on this perception? Agree?
    IIRC, that's actually the approach they took when the uncut DVDs started back in '04, having them put out alongside the edited DVDs (which is where that rumor that they suspended the uncut DVDs because of their competing with them came from). It'd probably cost too much money to have to put out both versions, instead of just having the edited dub on TV or online and an uncut dub out on DVDs (like with DBZ:Kai, except FUNi just dubs it uncut from the start and then edits it for TV, whereas 4Kids watered it down from the start).

    Still, it'll be interesting to see who ends up bidding the highest for the license. Would be nice if FUNi or VIZ got in on this, but I guess we'll see.
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