I do wonder if Saban will redub the show and release it uncut. He likes to make money and he loves to pander to nostalgia.
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I do wonder if Saban will redub the show and release it uncut. He likes to make money and he loves to pander to nostalgia.
Yu-Gi-Oh! in the US is dudes pointing their fingers at Kaiba instead of guns.
This show won't get redubbed. You're kidding yourself to even hope it would. These are 22 minute trading card commercials. There's no point for this company to redub those episodes. They won't release DVDs themselves, but rather through a third party, and these redubbed episodes won't get on TV since they aren't advertising the latest cards.
manga series that did center around the card game, I don't think that the card game was even made until about the time Battle City started, in the manga at least. Yu-Gi-Oh! didn't become a toyetic franchise until GX started since that and all of the other spin-off series' main purpose was to promote the newest cards.
While I know that it isn't too likely to happen, I don't see the problem in just hoping for redubs. There would be a point since there is a demand for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh!, especially for DM, which out of the three series 4Kids dubbed has the most demand for a redub. I never really expected these potential redubs to air on TV. Not only because of the card issue, but also that it would take up more time to edit the cards for TV airing. At least with going straight to DVD, they wouldn't have to worry about editing the cards to save some money. I'm fully aware that it isn't likely to happen and I've said countless times that I would be okay with legal subs of the previous series, but I don't really see the problem of hoping for redubs, especially when I'm not saying it's a guarantee by any means. Even if Funimation gets the license, which would be pretty awesome, redubs wouldn't be a sure-thing, although legal subs probably would be guaranteed if they get it.
Regardless, the bidding has been approved, so any company interested in picking up the license can throw some money in. At least this should make it clearer that Saban hasn't bought the license yet.
Yes, I know the Yu-Gi-Oh! manga didn't start out with the intent to sell trading cards (I even said so in this thread), but the second anime series certainly was. The fact that Yu-Gi-Oh! DM didn't bother to cover the portion of the story in the manga that the Toei series covered screams 22 minute trading card commercial. It dropped the only portion of the story (Capsule Monsters and Dungeon Dice excluded as they were hawking other Yu-Gi-Oh! merch) where those specific Yu-Gi-Oh! branded cards weren't used. But what's more condemning is this:
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters Premiere Date (Japan) - April 18, 2000
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters OCG (Japan) - February 4, 1999
Konami's card game was already running by the time the anime began. The second anime certainly was a commercial.
As for the Uncut DVD release you guys need to remember that Saban (or Kidsco rather) would sublicense any home video release because they aren't going to do it themselves. Saban doesn't release Power Rangers on DVD. Lionsgate, and Shout! Factory will. Can any of you guys name a show that had original content exclusive to the DVDs in a sublicense situation? The only ones I can name are the 4Kids uncut DVDs Funimation released. Not only that, but the DVD market has pretty much collapsed. Series set releases don't do as well as they used to, and in such a shared profit situation (money would have to go to Kidsco, the DVD company, the Japanese, and potentially even 4Kids) this likely wouldn't be a huge moneymaker for any party.
Anyone wondering about the Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal dub, looks like 4Kids will continue to dub it during the "Transition Period", June 30-September 15.
From page 93 of the updated 4Kids/Saban deal contract posted on epiq:
And then it goes on talking about what services they'll provide during the Transition Period for The CW block.During the Transition Term, seller shall provide the following Services and Support Services to Purchaser and Brands:
Seller and its Affiliates shall provide all production related services in connection with Yu-Gi-Oh property and The CW Network ("CW"), including (i) producing the English language adaptation of the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal episodes
Those are valid points and I do recognize that it would be difficult for any company to pull off. Even so, I can still hope and dream of redubs, while admitting that it isn't too likely to happen. Besides that, Saban hasn't gotten the license yet, so perhaps it would be slightly easier for another company to pull off.Originally Posted by Takao
I was kind of looking forward to seeing how the new company would handle the WDC arc, but I guess it makes sense that 4Kids would continue to dub it during the transition period. That would be better than having Zexal on hiatus for a few months while the new company got things setup for their dub of the series. Plus, it does give the voice actors a job for a bit longer. I just hope that when the new company has their dub ready to air, they'll be able to shorten the gap between the original and dub versions, as well as have a good cast of voice actors.Originally Posted by powergate92
Yeah. They have pretty good VA's.
Pretty much all anime are commercials. It's just more obvious with Duel Monsters. In Japan, the purpose of nearly all anime is to sell figures, DVD's, and other merch.
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Yeah. Even in america, shows have to push merchandise to get on the air.
Though I'm not a fan of the franchise, I'm sorry if it doesn't end up in better hands than those of 4Kids, considering it has a lot of them who I'm sure wish to see it treated better than it has been.
However, that's not the only thing I'm here to say anything about...
Even though I wish it wasn't this way, just like a lot people would, too...
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Those are good points about how animated series, regardless of where they come from, are commercials for merchandise. I usually see toyetic series as whose main reason for being made in the first place is the promote the toys and other merchandise, such as with Pokemon and Digimon. Even though DM focuses on the card game, the fact that it's an adaptation of the manga series and wasn't bond to the newest booster paces like with the spin-off series doesn't make me see the series as toyetic. But that's just me and I don't want to continue to go off-topic with this discussion.
I was expecting for 4Kids to let the auction go on longer, especially when the judge did approve of it, so that they could possibly get more money out it. Plus, I was kind looking forward to seeing what other companies would bid on the license, but I guess 4Kids wanted money in the more immediate future, instead of waiting a bit longer. Considering that Saban already has the CW block, although I'm still questioning if that's really worth it in the long run, I guess it makes sense that Saban would get the license. I wonder if that also means that they get all of those other shows and properties 4Kids was putting up for sale. I don't think most of those shows would be worth much to Saban, or any other company for that matter.
Though, hopefully Saban will be able to treat the franchise better than 4Kids has in the last few years. I could easily see them getting Zexal to air on Nick or Nicktoons, which as much as I dislike the series would be good for getting more kids exposed to the franchise. They'll be able to provide DVD releases, but I can't see them re-releasing the 4Kids dubs outside of the anniversary movie and what they've dubbed of Zexal. The sales were pretty poor given how long it took them to release just the first season of GX and I don't think that there's a strong demand for the 4Kids dubs to be released or re-released on DVD. Though, I could see them putting those episodes available online through Hulu or streaming them through Netflix, so they'll probably be available in some format. Hopefully, this will lead to good things for the franchise.
I'm curious to see how they'll handle Zexal once the transition period is over and what voice actors they'll get, as I'm still pretty sure that they won't keep the current cast for their dub. I honestly do hope that they won't take down the legal subs on Hulu. I know that it's unlikely for them to redub the previous three series, but at the very least, I hope that Saban won't just ignore the demand for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! by taking down those subs of 5D's and Zexal and maybe after they get their dub of Zexal up and running, they can do more with sub releases at least. It would be a shame to just get rid of that after 4Kids has subbed so many episodes already and actually tried to appeal to the older fanbase through those subs.
First, while i know that there is some doubts with the 4Kids Dubs of the Past series being released onto DVD due to low sales, I don't think that would stop saban for releasing episodes of DM epsically a Yu-Gi-Oh The Complete 4th Season. Things could turn around, but saban could also find ways to promote for fans to get the DVD's. I Know that they're probably hasn't been much demand for 4Kids DVD's of the Past series, but like i said before things could change for the better. I Just hope that this year we will get a Bonds Beyond Time DVD Release.Originally Posted by Light Lucario;3997053
They'll be able to provide DVD releases, but I can't see them re-releasing the 4Kids dubs outside of the anniversary movie and what they've dubbed of Zexal. The sales were pretty poor given how long it took them to release just the first season of GX and I don't think that there's a strong demand for the 4Kids dubs to be released or re-released on DVD. Though, I could see them putting those episodes available online through Hulu or streaming them through Netflix, so they'll probably be available in some format. Hopefully, this will lead to good things for the franchise.
I'm curious to see how they'll handle Zexal once the transition period is over and what voice actors they'll get, as I'm still pretty sure that they won't keep the current cast for their dub. I honestly do hope that they won't take down the legal subs on Hulu. I know that it's unlikely for them to redub the previous three series, but at the very least, I hope that Saban won't just ignore the demand for uncut [AUTOLINK
Second. You're absolutely right that they won't likely redub anything, but i can see for the right hand reasons that they can still provide subs on hulu. As for that matter, i recently read in a court document that they are allowed to keep the 4Kids logo on their past dubs, so probably means like what happened with Pokemon Classic Episodes, No redubs, They will have Yu-Gi-Oh air on the new CW Block, And They transferred the hulu licence of the 4 Series to them, so that's why they are still going to be on hulu.
So it just look like to some people including me that Saban will have no redubs at any time because they are just too unlikely to happen at any time. Though, i'm not saying that it's not wrong to hope and dream that it will happen, it's just that it's probably unlikely that i will happen in my perspective.
great. While 4Kids was probably having a really hard time with finding a distributor, or being able to afford one, the fact that Funimation stopped being the distributor for Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs says a lot regarding their sales. Maybe if Zexal DVDs, which will definitely come out at some point, turn out well they'll consider re-releasing the 4Kids dubs, but I think it's more likely that the dubs will just be available on Netflix or Hulu. It would probably be easier for them to manage and fans of the dubs will still be able to see the 4Kids versions, so it isn't like they're going to disappear if they don't get a DVD release. I really doubt that the GX and 5D's dubs are going to get a DVD release anytime soon though. I'm pretty sure that Bonds Beyond Time is going to come out. It would be a good way for them to test out the waters for Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs and 4Kids was trying to get it out last year anyway.
Despite how much I've said that I would like redubs, I've said just as much that I know that they aren't likely, so this isn't the first time I've said that by a long shot. I don't know what court document you read and I'm not sure if you're talking about keeping the 4Kids logo at the end of the credits or in DVDs. For the former, that would make sense, but I don't think that necessarily means that there won't be any redubs. There is demand for uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! and quite a bit for demand for at least a DM redub, unlike with Pokemon. I know that there are people out there who would love legal subs of Pokemon and redubs, especially for the first few movies, but that's an extremely minor part of the fanbase. There have been much more fans of Yu-Gi-Oh! wanting uncut dubs/legal subs for all four series who have been vocal about it for a long time. If they do release the 4Kids dubs on DVD, the logo won't be on the DVDs since TPCI, then PUSA, didn't include that logo when they re-released the first couple of seasons of Pokemon on DVD.Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom
Like I've said before, I've recognized that it's not likely, so this isn't the first time I've acknowledged it. Personally, I don't see the difference in hoping for redubs and then hoping for 4Kids dubs to be re-released on DVD. Outside of maybe DM, what they've dubbed for Zexal and the anniversary movies, I can't really see them bothering to release the 4Kids dubs and given how poorly the 4Kids DVD sales were, it isn't too likely to happen either. I just think that there's a better chance for the older dubs to be available online instead of through DVDs and that really isn't too bad. Just like getting legal subs for the previous three series isn't too bad if they don't do redubs, especially if they are somehow able to work out the contract issues for DM to get legal subs since 4Kids wasn't in a good financial position to do that when the raws were first taken down. What I'm trying to say is hope for something good to happen and then try to be happy with what we end up getting. At least, that's what I'm trying to do.Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom
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