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    I am watching ahead in Japanese, Yuma is much more barable without that stupid catch phrase of "feeling the flow".
    I don't see how that makes him much more bearable, especially when Yuma's Japanese catchphrase doesn't even have a direct translation and it's basically a battle cry/meaning of life for Yuma. Besides that, Yuma is still annoying and stupid in either version to the point where it's pretty much impossible for me to take him seriously.

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    Today's episode was pretty cool! Interesting to see a Chaos XYZ summon of Number C39 Utopia Ray! What confuses me a little bit is when Cathy sliced the statue head. But to call Astral a friend somehow awoken the emergence of how the chaos XYZ summon happened which was pretty cool! It's kinda awesome that Yuma's got to saw a Brief glimpse of Astral, and OBSERVATIONS with Astral happen again but this time in 2 parts!

    Next episode is probably going to go deeper into Yuma's past with father and i'm thinking it might answer us some of the questions about the emperors key!

    Today's Episodes get 8/10 Stars! "A Decently good episode with a new twist of Chaos XYZ Summon!"

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    I liked today's episode. I didn't care much for the villain, and he seemed like a joke at the end. I do think its funny though that suddenly, all of Yuma's friends like Astral alot.
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    I thought that this episode was pretty good. The new Kuriboh was kind of cute and it has a pretty decent ability. I don't quite understand why Yuma was saying that his friends have always been there for him. The only characters that he has interacted with significantly have been Tori and Bronk. He's barely talked to Caswell and I don't think he's interacted with Flip at all since their duel, which just makes me question even more why those two are even part of the supporting cast in the first place. I was kind of surprised that no one was in favor of Yuma surrendering to save his friends. Although they know about Astral, I'm pretty sure that none of them know that he will disappear if Yuma loses a Number-related duel. Plus, they were under the impression that they would fall into lava and Yuma only had one hundred life points left. I guess that they wouldn't want Yuma to give him since that goes against his catchphrase, but I think that they could have caused Yuma to think more about it before refusing to give up.

    I wasn't surprised that that Kite figure turned out to be a statue. Since Kite is already an underling for Mr. Heartland and Dr. Faker, it really wouldn't make sense for him to have his own following. Not to mention he would want to take care of hunting Numbers himself considering that he believes that they will help Hart recover from his illness. It does make me wonder why Fortuno was practically worshiping Kite and how he even heard of him.

    While Yuma saying that Astral is his friend was nice and all, I really didn't like that it led to Astral basically creating a new card for Yuma out of thin air. When he gave Yuma Utopia in his match against Shark, at least we can assume that it contained the only piece of his memory about his name and that he knows how to duel. Creating Chaos Number 39 Utopia Ray felt kind of cheap and too sudden for my tastes. Plus, it feels too early to give Utopia an upgrade like this and Yuma's opponent wasn't a major villain. Whenever Stardust got an upgrade in 5D's, at least Yusei was facing off against a significant villain, like with Kalin and Primo. I liked its design though.

    I'm still kind of confused how that lava was part of the AR Vision. It disappeared right when the holograms from the duel vanished, even though that lave was there before the duel started if I recall correctly. Since none of the kids were wearing Duel Gazars, I don't understand how they could believe that they were in danger. While I still think that the Duel Gazars are silly and just a weird marketing device, they've established from the start that they can't see the holograms without wearing one and they never bothered to explain if this was some different kind of hologram or magic. It's too bad that the other characters can't see Astral anymore. It's getting old seeing Astral only able to interact with Yuma. Astral observing that Yuma is his friend was kind of nice. I'm still annoyed that they're so inconsistent with showing Astral's memories though.

    The ending was kind of weird. I still would have liked to learn how Fortuno found out about Kite and why he wanted to be his servant. Since Kite slows down time, he shouldn't have been able to hear about him from the grape vines. Maybe I could have bought that he saw him duel a few times in the shadows after he found a Number card, but they don't bother to offer an explanation like that and they never clarify how he got the power to steal souls like Kite has. If he was connected to Dr. Faker and Mr. Heartland, we could assume that he got his powers from them, but he obviously wasn't. For someone who clearly didn't enjoy stealing souls, or at least it was heavily implied in his debut episode, Kite also didn't seem to mind stealing his soul when Fortuno could have just handed him his Number card.

    Overall, this was at least a better duel than the last two-part match. Though, there were still too many things that weren't explained to make it really good and I still find the creation of Utopia Ray to be more of a deus ex machina than anything else.

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    I thought today's episode was decently good. The flashback on Yuma's parents was pretty interestingly cool and I think with the world of positive and negatives it sorta helped a little bit with explaining "feeling the flow" but I have a feeling there's more mysteries behind that!

    As for the edits I know that they did cut out Yuma's dad falling off after cutting the rope, Which they did keep the knife In surprisingly.

    Overall good episode! Todays episode rating gets 7.8 stars. Next episode will be pretty interesting to see possessed Yuma and dark Astral.

    "Good episode with good explaining of Yuma's past and giving a good 'feeling the flow' explanation!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom View Post
    I thought today's episode was decently good. The flashback on Yuma's parents was pretty interestingly cool and I think with the world of positive and negatives it sorta helped a little bit with explaining "feeling the flow" but I have a feeling there's more mysteries behind that!
    I don't think that there is. That explanation of the positive and negative worlds offered a pretty clear definition of what feeling the flow is, so I don't think that there's more mysteries about it. Besides that, it's just a catchphrase that 4Kids made up due to the original catchphrase not having a proper English translation, so there isn't much mystery to feeling the flow to begin with.

    Anyway, I thought that this was a decent episode. While I really don't like Yuma, at least they gave him a backstory. Most of the main cast don't even get that. I still think that it's pretty pathetic that Yuma is so bad at dueling, despite dueling for years, and the only explanation is that Yuma is dumb, which is an incredibly bad reason. The game really isn't that hard and seeing that Yuma has been bad for years just makes it even harder to take him seriously. I also question his determination to become a Duel Champion. If Yuma really wanted to reach that goal, then he would have actually tried to improve his skills and/or his deck well before Astral came into the picture. Charging head-first through all of his challenges is only going to get him so far and even if he somehow becomes a champion, it really isn't going to mean much, especially if he continues to use Astral's advice and power. While Yuma may have possibilities and potential like his father mentioned, that doesn't mean anything if he doesn't work hard to reach his goal.

    The way in which Yuma's father got the key was kind of interesting. Though, the picture in Yuma's room gave the impression that both of his parents found it in a jungle temple instead of Astral, or someone that looks like him, giving it to Yuma's father. Based on the parents' dialogue to Kari, they knew that Yuma would face some challenges, but they wouldn't offer any actual explanation or give more detail. While that explains why Kari didn't want Yuma dueling, it doesn't make up for how pointless that subplot was. Not to mention she didn't help Yuma out like her parents wanted. Still, it was kind of nice to see her and Yuma's grandmother to come to that School Spirit Day. This was an okay episode. Yuma was a bit more tolerable, even though I still really dislike him, and it was interesting to see an episode mostly full of flashbacks. Though, they really don't have a lot of female voice actresses since they had Veronica Taylor voice three different characters in this episode, although two were background characters, but it still stood out.

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    I liked this episode. Yeah, there wans't much dueling at all, but still. It shows that this series can have some heart when it really wants to.

    I think Yuma's dad is a likeable guy. He seems like a nice father.
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    I actually thought it was a good episode, especially when it came to "never giving up" and the whole two world story thing. Granted, I thought Yuma's parents talking about Yuma facing challenges to be a bit creepy. It was almost as if they knew they weren't going to be around, especially when they told Kari to take care of him and watch his dueling.

    Overall, good episode, especially with very minimal dueling. I wish they would do episodes like this more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfkid View Post
    I actually thought it was a good episode, especially when it came to "never giving up" and the whole two world story thing. Granted, I thought Yuma's parents talking about Yuma facing challenges to be a bit creepy. It was almost as if they knew they weren't going to be around, especially when they told Kari to take care of him and watch his dueling.
    I'm pretty sure that they were aware that they weren't going to be aware when Yuma would be facing those challenges. Maybe they had some vision after Yuma's father got the key that made them realize what would happen to them and Yuma and wanted to give Kari a warning about it.

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    Overall, good episode, especially with very minimal dueling. I wish they would do episodes like this more often.
    I wouldn't mind if they had episodes like this more often too. The dueling in Zexal haven't been that good for the most part, especially when Yuma has been the only one dueling and everyone else in the main cast has been a glorified background character and/or a cheerleader for Yuma. While I think that most of the cast is kind of bland, it wouldn't hurt them to give some focus to the other characters so that they would seem more interesting and have more fleshed out personalities.

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    Yuma parents are nice. His dad seems like a really cool guy, his mom is nice and might I say she looks hot.

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    4Kids put episode 16 up on Hulu, so how far behind are they now? Sorry, I haven't been bumping the thread or contributing in the conversation. I've been really busy and circumstances have prevented me from being able to watch the show at all. I did get to see the one they put up on Hulu and my mom got Dish Network with a DVR so I'll be able to record the show and watch it now when I go over to her place. Although, episode 16 reminded me why I'm not big on this show...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Yoshi Mage View Post
    4Kids put episode 16 up on Hulu, so how far behind are they now? Sorry, I haven't been bumping the thread or contributing in the conversation. I've been really busy and circumstances have prevented me from being able to watch the show at all. I did get to see the one they put up on Hulu and my mom got Dish Network with a DVR so I'll be able to record the show and watch it now when I go over to her place. Although, episode 16 reminded me why I'm not big on this show...
    They're now three episodes behind, or four if you count the episode they'll air this weekend if they don't update their Hulu episodes before then. I'm not surprised that they didn't update the subs for Zexal. I imagine that the demad for legal subs for this series were extremely minor compared to the other three series. It's okay. I can understand being busy and how that would prevent you from watching the episodes too. The duel against that former student definitely wasn't that great, the pacing is still pretty bad and the bulk of the characters in the main cast are bland and uninteresting for the most part. The few interesting characters, like Kite and Shark, don't appear that often, and I still think Yuma is an annoyingly unlikable main character.

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    He really really is annoying, I mean, Judai was a hyperactive kid, but he wasn't really all that annoying either. The biggest problem with Zexal is that not only is Yuma annoying, his supporting cast isn't the least bit interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Yoshi Mage View Post
    He really really is annoying, I mean, Judai was a hyperactive kid, but he wasn't really all that annoying either. The biggest problem with Zexal is that not only is Yuma annoying, his supporting cast isn't the least bit interesting.
    I completely agree. Jaden/Judai was hyperactive and had goofy moments too, but he wasn't that annoying. The only times I would find him annoying would be when he was focusing on having fun during a life threatening duel and in some moments where I thought he was getting too cocky. With Yuma, it feels like they've cracked up hyper and goofyness up to twelve to make laugh at him, instead of with him. Plus, at the end of the day, I could still take Jaden/Judai seriously. I haven't been able to take Yuma seriously ever since that whole not realizing what he was wearing for days bit. Instead of making him a comical lead, they've made Yuma into a joke that's impossible to take seriously, despite the show's constant attempts to do so.

    The supporting cast is definitely boring. I think that a major reason as to why they're uinteresting comes from how everything they do resolves around or eventually connects back to Yuma. The writers haven't bothered giving them more unique personalities or giving them time flesh out these characters in order to make them seem more interesting. Tori is Yuma's personal cheerleader, Bronk, while probably the least bland out of the supporting cast, doesn't really do much beyond cheering for Yuma as well, Caswell is a background character who got stuck in the supporting cast for some reason and Cathy is basically the shy love interest with strange cat powers. Flip is probably the only character in the supporting cast who is fleshed out due to actually getting a backstory and some focus in his duel against Yuma, but that doesn't say much when he hasn't done anything since and I think he should have stayed a one-shot character. Plus, he's still pretty dull. I kind of like Shark and I think he's kind of interesting, but he unfortunately doesn't appear enough to help balance out the constant attention Yuma gets.

    Despite how GX suffered from a similar problem with the main character hogging up so much attenion, I think that they had a much better main/supporting cast. While they were connected to Jaden/Judai too, most of them had their own conflicts to deal with or goals to reach that were separate from him. That helped to flesh out their personalities even when they weren't the center focus of the episode and made them more interesting characters. The bulk of the characters in Zexal don't have any purpose beyond their connection to Yuma, which makes the series full of boring characters and makes it that much weaker.

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    Good episode today! I thought that a "Friendship Duel" is alot of cool seeing how Yuma and Shark were fighting in the episode and how they were friends when were young. Today's duel pretty awesome because when yuma is in danger his best friend shark saved the day with Utopia! I thought it was kind of cool hearing Sean Schemmel saying Feeling the Flow as Bronk! I'll Miss Sean Schemmel's if the licence is sold to saban.

    The Only thing that concerns is the world being destroyed in Astral's vision. However, i took a predicted guess that they were going to edit the explosion out, and indeed they only cut the world exploding and kept the burning lines as a Purple Glowy stuff.

    Today's Episode Gets 8.5/10 for an awesome Friendship duel! "The episode today was filled with friendship and how fights can turn into ugly duels to a friend in need being saved by another!"

    Next Week's Episode looks pretty interesting with Yuma become with a broken trashbot and dueling them. Although to Shark Duel Kite in 2 weeks as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Kids4EverFandom View Post
    Good episode today! I thought that a "Friendship Duel" is alot of cool seeing how Yuma and Shark were fighting in the episode and how they were friends when were young. Today's duel pretty awesome because when yuma is in danger his best friend shark saved the day with Utopia! I thought it was kind of cool hearing Sean Schemmel saying Feeling the Flow as Bronk! I'll Miss Sean Schemmel's if the licence is sold to saban.
    I think you mean Yuma and Bronk were fighting in this episode and how they were friends when they were young. Shark never even appeared in this episode.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. I really didn't blame Bronk for being upset with Yuma at the beginning of the episode. He was getting way overconfident and full of himself. Not to mention he depends on Utopia way too much and he's still way too reckless. I know that charging head-first is part of Yuma's dueling style, but considering the serious position he's in with these Number cards, he really should be learning to think more. Besides that, being so reckless is only going to get him so far and it actually prevents him from receiving growth.

    The flashback to how Yuma and Bronk became friends was kind of nice, if only because we rarely get backstory for these characters. Though, I didn't really see so much of this friendship they were talking about. I guess I could see how Bronk would respect Yuma's determination, but considering that he wasn't able to even win one duel until Astral showed up, determination isn't that much in the long run. Plus, I kind of would have preferred to see some focus on their relationship in the present, rather than just how it started, so that Bronk could have more attention, especially when Zexal rarely likes to shift away from Yuma, and show why they're friends now in order to make the friendship believable.

    Personally, I thought that Bronk being able to break Yuma's Key off like that was a pretty contrived way to get Black Mist out. It would have been more interesting if Bronk had to duel Dark Mist without a Number card. I can understand why they wouldn't want Black Mist to have control of Utopia, even though it was more likely that he would want to summon Number 96 anyway, but it could have made Bronk look more like a skilled duelist taking down a Number card with his own skills and cards. We already know that it's possible due to Shark's second duel against Yuma and it would have been nice to see more of that.

    The duel itself was interesting, but it felt really rushed. The setup of Astral being possessed by one of the Number cards and using Yuma like this had a lot of potential to be something more than this. It's kind of hard to go into a situation like this relatively early in the episode when there's no buildup and there isn't much of a connection between the audience and the characters involved. Trying to make it look like Yuma and Bronk are friends isn't going to make it more meaningful to me. Still, at least Bronk was able to get a whole episode of focus, which is a lot for a non-Yuma character in this series. I'm disappointed with how Yuma, who is clearly stupid, was able to trick Dark Mist like that though. I know that he couldn't control his mind and only his body, but it doesn't make sense that Dark Mist would be able to fall for that act if he wasn't controlling Yuma's mind and he probably could have sensed if Astral was trying to communicate to Yuma. It just seemed like a really forced way to make sure Bronk would win.

    It was nice and all for Bronk and Yuma to make up and all, but I think it would have made more sense for both Bronk and Tori, who I completely forgot was even in this episode in the first place, to ask Yuma a lot of questions. Are Numbers too dangers for Yuma to handle? Could there be other Number cards like Number 96 who try to take control of Astral? Is it too risky for Yuma to have even one Number card? Is it even safe for Astral at this point? Instead, we get them all laughing it off while Astral is the only one left questioning the situation.

    For me, this episode perfectly captures how I feel about Zexal's quality. The basic concepts around the storyline are actually really good, but the execution is just terrible, which causes the whole series to feel like nothing but wasted potential. This episode really should have been a two-part match instead of rushed into one. It could have offered much better buildup to Dark Mist taking control of Astral and setting up the duel. They could have had much more focus on Bronk's friendship with Yuma and why they're still friends so that the friendship can actually feel believable. If they had cut down the duels from earlier in the season to one episode, aside from Yuma's first duel against Shark, then they could have easily made this into a two-parter. This match definitely deserved that more than Yuma dueling his teacher or dueling against Flip did.

    One of my issues with this series is that it tries to claim that Yuma and his circle of friends are really close, but he barely interacts with them. The only other characters he talks frequently enough are Tori and Bronk, but Tori is basically his cheerleader and Bronk is basically in the same position, although I think he has a bit more personality than Tori, but that's really not saying much. At least in the other three series, I could believe that the main cast had a solid sense of friendship by this point. It certainly doesn't help that I really dislike Yuma either and I think that he's easily the worst main character out of the four series.

    I liked that Bronk got a bit of focus, as he's probably the least bland out of Yuma's group, and the concept of a Number card taking over Astral's body was cool, but it was just handled so poorly. I really wouldn't give this episode such a high mark. I don't think it was that good. Even with ignoring how rushed it was, there were too many contrivances in the writing and the lack of focus for Yuma's friends makes it hard to really root for them. The fact that I completely forgot that Tori was even still watching shows how much of an impact they have on me.

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    Episodes go into repeats again starting on May 26th.

    Here's the dub titles of the remaining new episodes:

    05/05/2012 - 22 - The Shark Hunter
    05/12/2012 - 23 - Hunting Down the Hunter, Part I
    05/19/2012 - 24 - Hunting Down the Hunter, Part II
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    Quote Originally Posted by spidey4545 View Post
    Episodes go into repeats again starting on May 26th.

    Here's the dub titles of the remaining new episodes:

    05/05/2012 - 22 - The Shark Hunter
    05/12/2012 - 23 - Hunting Down the Hunter, Part I
    05/19/2012 - 24 - Hunting Down the Hunter, Part II
    I was expecting them to get up to episode 25 before going into reruns since that's technically where the first arc ends. Though, it's pretty much a flashback episode anyway, but since they wouldn't have to do as much work as they normally do dubbing an episode, I figured that it would be included. I guess the new dub will start off with that episode instead of episode 26 when the license is officially bought by another company.

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    I really didn't like the newest one, maybe it's because Yuma's friends are terribly boring and this episode didn't really change that. The infected Astral was a cool design though and a small reminder that this is still Yu-Gi-Oh!, because not much else in this show looks like any of the other Yu-Gi-Oh! series. So Shark and Kaito duel in a couple of weeks? I guess I'll keep watching then. I've been playing the card game again, so it is kind of neat to still some new Yu-Gi-Oh! on TV.

    I really hope when/if Saban picks the show we get a new dub, because, wow is this one bad. I mean the show isn't all that good to begin with, but then dub makes it even less watchable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Yoshi Mage View Post
    I really didn't like the newest one, maybe it's because Yuma's friends are terribly boring and this episode didn't really change that. The infected Astral was a cool design though and a small reminder that this is still Yu-Gi-Oh!, because not much else in this show looks like any of the other Yu-Gi-Oh! series. So Shark and Kaito duel in a couple of weeks? I guess I'll keep watching then. I've been playing the card game again, so it is kind of neat to still some new Yu-Gi-Oh! on TV.
    Yeah, despite giving more focus to Bronk than he has had beforehand, it didn't make him any more interesting and I forgot that Tori was even in this episode near the end of the duel. If this was a two-part match, then they could have made at least Bronk more interesting with focusing more as to why he's still friends with Yuma. One of the most common complaints I've heard about Zexal is how it doesn't even feel like a Yu-Gi-Oh! series and I can definitely see that, especially in this first arc. I'm honestly quite curious to see how others respond to Shark and Kaito's duel in a couple of weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Yoshi Mage
    I really hope when/if Saban picks the show we get a new dub, because, wow is this one bad. I mean the show isn't all that good to begin with, but then dub makes it even less watchable...
    I'm hoping that in the new dub, they choose a less annoying voice for Yuma. I guess it fits in a way due to how annoying the character is, but voice that isn't annoying would be better, especially when the show rarely focuses on anyone who isn't Yuma. Most of the voices in this dub aren't too bad. They're barely passable, but they could also be a lot better and while that wouldn't make the show better, it could make it more watchable.

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