Pokemon: Best Wishes (Discussions)

[Jtaylor1]

I don't know what going to happen but there have been rumors speculating in ANN and other forums that Ash would not be the main character or be in Pokemon: Best Wishes. Remember The Pokemon Chronicles? Ash was not included in it.

[Mr. Hypocrite]

We know the Black and White games are going to be a little different from the previous generations, but I'm wondering how far the anime will deviate as well.

Using an original character as opposed to the female protagonist is one point, but the anime has never really followed the games. It would kind of be ironic for them to make only a few small changes as usual while GameFreak completely alters the formula for the video game.

Me personally, I just want something different out of Team Rocket. Make them stop following Ash and do their own thing instead, get rid of them completely, make them good guys, something, just stop beating them into the ground. It's both monotonous and cruel (even if they are fictional).

Also, should we be wary of an"Ash is going to catch Zoarark" movement, like what happened with Lucario, because I'd like to know now, so that I can avoid it.

[RonDrakenfan17]

I don't know what going to happen but there have been rumors speculating in ANN and other forums that Ash would not be the main character or be in Pokemon: Best Wishes. Remember The Pokemon Chronicles? Ash was not included in it.

So far, those have been faulse with the image of this new girl.
See, there was a sketch early before with Ash in it with the fifth Generation boy games outfit on, with the new girl. Since that girl's sketch turned out to be true....
Ask for the new thing, who knows. Most likely Ash will join in though, he loves to join in every thing.

[PC!]

I don't know what going to happen but there have been rumors speculating in ANN and other forums that Ash would not be the main character or be in Pokemon: Best Wishes. Remember The Pokemon Chronicles? Ash was not included in it.

Pokemon Chronicles was just a bunch of anime specials that 4Kids turned into a "series." They didn't focus on any one character.

[Gokou Ruri]

While this seems more like a movie plotline, I had a crazy theory the two silhouettes are the two Legendaries' two human forms, like Latios and Latias. Would make sense with the sudden inclusion of a black girl, and maybe the guy is white, go with the whole white/black theme? Then again, it's probably just the new female lead and Ash's rival.

[Shift]

My first impression of the new girl: Goo of Fosters, anime style. :P

Based on the line-up from the model sheet, I'd say Ash might actually be getting the water starter for once (which breaks the fire/grass monotony, but in exchange for another otter), with Iris getting the grass type (making the girl starter circle complete; plus, it kinda suits her more exotic fashion sense). Pokabu's the wild card; it's second evo might not be shown because it doesn't go to either of them, leaving it for either the new guy or slightly possibly Brock if he comes back.

[Terror of Death]

I'm wondering if they're saving the trainer from BW for another character role. Maybe a rival for Ash or something.

That would probably be for the best. Her design makes her seem more like a gym battler than a coordinator.

Anyway, I really hope that they keep contests and come up with a third quest this season. Even if Iris and the new male travelling partner turn out to be alot more interesting than Brock, having no tangible goals is going to hurt them in the long run. There's way too many act/adv anime with cool "protagonists" that never actually help in progressing the storyline. Comedy relief is great and all but if a main character is rarely going to take part in the action then they have no reason to be in every episode.

[zoombie]

If the BW girl is Ash's rival, now that is something we haven't seen. Ash's main rival be a girl, that would be something. And I am sure the shippers will come quickly because animosity between characters is something shippers look for.

With Ash and Team Rocket, for Shinichio Miki between this and Kubo taking forever with his story, he is going to have work avaiable to him for a long time.

[RonDrakenfan17]

If the BW girl is Ash's rival, now that is something we haven't seen. Ash's main rival be a girl, that would be something. And I am sure the shippers will come quickly because animosity between characters is something shippers look for.

With Ash and Team Rocket, for Shinichio Miki between this and Kubo taking forever with his story, he is going to have work avaiable to him for a long time.

Awe yes shippers, Ash gets shipped with every one
I don't care what yah anti Ash people are saying, I'm glad he's staying.
If he got replaced, what if it turned out to be another Yugioh GX?

[Light Lucario]

We know the Black and White games are going to be a little different from the previous generations, but I'm wondering how far the anime will deviate as well.

Using an original character as opposed to the female protagonist is one point, but the anime has never really followed the games. It would kind of be ironic for them to make only a few small changes as usual while GameFreak completely alters the formula for the video game.

I believe that the series has followed the storyline of the D/P games pretty well in the current series. They even covered most of the important game events in the series ever since Johto. Granted, it isn't exactly like the games, but they still do generally follow the storyline of the newest games. Even with the rebirth theme for these new games, I don't think that GameFreak will completely alter the formula for the video games. We don't even know the evil team, let alone the how the storyline works, so it just feels too early to say something like that for sure to me.

Also, should we be wary of an"Ash is going to catch Zoarark" movement, like what happened with Lucario, because I'd like to know now, so that I can avoid it.

Unless he forms a bond with Zoroark similar to how he did with Lucario in the the eighth movie, then I don't think that a lot of people will believe that he'll catch one.

Anyway, I really hope that they keep contests and come up with a third quest this season. Even if Iris and the new male travelling partner turn out to be alot more interesting than Brock, having no tangible goals is going to hurt them in the long run. There's way too many act/adv anime with cool "protagonists" that never actually help in progressing the storyline. Comedy relief is great and all but if a main character is rarely going to take part in the action then they have no reason to be in every episode.

I hope that they keep Contests too. Even though I didn't like a lot of the Sinnoh Contests, I would like to see what kind of upgrades they would have in the Isshu region and how Iris does as a Coordinator. I'm not sure if they would add in a third quest. The writers have done a pretty good job with providing equal, or close to equal, focus on gyms and Contests in AG and DP. Considering that both May and Dawn had the same goal, I could see Iris going for the same goal.

[Linkpre]

I was kinda interested to see how this one would turn out, but since Kid Ash and Team Rocket are still there, I probably won't get into it. Really don't want to hear from them anymore.

I really would have like to see maybe a older Ash and the two characters from the games traveling and also to see the show go more humor based again. Oh well, hope everyone else can enjoy it.

[KPTitan]

Pokebeach has some screenshots from a Best Wishes commercial, I see:

http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/exclusi...nknown-pokemon

I now officially deem Zekrom as Nightmare Fuel... ain't no freakin' way I'd wanna meet it in a dark alley.

EDIT: That link doesn't work guys, sorry about that... but you gotta go to the Main Page of Pokebeach to see it.

[CyberCubed]

As long as Brock stays gone this time, the BW saga should feel more fresh than DP did.

Really makes you wonder why Brock lasted so much longer than Misty did. Sometimes I feel as if they both should have left after Johto, although I did think Brock rounded up the Hoenn group nicely in AG.

No more Misty and Brock, why didn't they realize this 2 generations earlier? They've even gone as far as to stop Misty's cameo/guest appearances, which is why DP is ending and she didn't appear at all.

[RonDrakenfan17]

Maybe they felt they could possibly do some thing with Brock in D/P but finally realized they've got nothing left for him and decided to drop him off this time. It will probaly end up like Orange Islands, why yah ask? Cuz there's a female Professor this time, take the hint Hey'll get this crazy idea to stay with her and help her out and shey'll take up his offer cuz he's so good with giving Pokemon food. Will Ash be traveling alone by the time Brock decides to choose this? Who knows, last time Misty was with Ash and they headed to the Orange Islands together. This time, Ash might go alone and meet up with new characters of course from the new region.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

They didn't realize it soon enough because they were too busy counting the money they made from the regular formula.

[Light Lucario]

As long as Brock stays gone this time, the BW saga should feel more fresh than DP did.

Really makes you wonder why Brock lasted so much longer than Misty did. Sometimes I feel as if they both should have left after Johto, although I did think Brock rounded up the Hoenn group nicely in AG.

No more Misty and Brock, why didn't they realize this 2 generations earlier? They've even gone as far as to stop Misty's cameo/guest appearances, which is why DP is ending and she didn't appear at all.

I'm still not totally sold on Brock leaving for good. He's been on show for so long, second only to Ash, Pikachu and Team Rocket, and people were really sure that he would not come to Sinnoh. I am aware of the blog entry where the animator was surprised that Brock isn't there, as well as the Japanese article that mentioned something about a new dream for Brock, or something along those lines. Since the blog was talking about the first three episodes, it didn't sound that clear that it was referring to the whole series or the first three episodes and the dream thing also doesn't sound that clear to me. It's definitely possible that he'll be replaced but after Brock came back for DP when so many people were sure he wouldn't, I'm going to wait until after either all of the promo artwork is released and/or if he isn't in the first opening theme.

As for Misty, she probably didn't appear because they weren't promoting first generation Pokemon or games like they were back in AG. She'll probably appear when Ash goes back to Pallet Town after the Sinnoh League. They've kept Brock this long most likely because he fits the role of oldest mentor, help to take care of Ash and the rest of the group and being able to explain types and attacks to the group, as well as the kids in audience pretty well.

[RonDrakenfan17]

Did you see the leaked sketch of Best Wishes? It didn't have Brock on there either. Than there's the ending to the film and the new Jappanese ending with Brock looking in another direction from Ash who's looking at a city. Just all seems all a little too strange if Brock's gonna stay. I mean, why not have Brock on the leaked sketch? Its for the Pokemon owners eyes not the viewers.

[Light Lucario]

Did you see the leaked sketch of Best Wishes? It didn't have Brock on there either. Than there's the ending to the film and the new Jappanese ending with Brock looking in another direction from Ash who's looking at a city. Just all seems all a little too strange if Brock's gonna stay. I mean, why not have Brock on the leaked sketch? Its for the Pokemon owners eyes not the viewers.

I did see the leaked beta character sheet for Best Wishes. I'm not sure if that would be solid proof that Brock doesn't travel with Ash in Isshu. That sketch didn't have the other trainer who was revealed with Iris at the end of that episode a couple of weeks ago, who people believe could be either the new rival or the new third wheel character. I doubt that the beta sketch was for the main characters throughout the whole new series since I really don't think a duo could work for a whole series. It could have been a sketch for the characters and Pokemon that appear in the first few episodes for all we know.

I did not know about the new Japanese ending theme though. I know that there is some article or special segment at the end of one episode in Japan that focused on how the DP trio wouldn't travel together again. It could be that the ending theme is hyping up the group's separation, rather than just Brock leaving and not rejoining the group again, especially if Dawn is facing another direction as well. I think that it's still possible that Brock could rejoin the group. He's done that plenty of times in the past, so it really wouldn't be unexpected if that happens again.

Besides that, Brock didn't show up on any artwork for DP until the last minute with him appearing with Ash and Dawn sometime around August, if I recall correctly. I don't doubt that there are possible signs that could point out Brock being replaced. There clearly are signs, but I just don't want to jump to conclusions at this point, especially since people said the same thing about him being replaced for DP. It's definitely possible that he'll be replaced, but I'm just going to wait until we get completely clear, undeniable proof that he's gone. For me, that would be not showing up on any promotional artwork and/or not show up in the first opening theme of Best Wishes.

To be honest, I actually don't want Brock to leave. He doesn't do that much in the group, but he still comes off as funny, likable and cool character to me. He's worked well with the group dynamics in all of the other series. Plus, since I doubt that the writers will add a third battle oriented goal in the main group, I think whoever would replace Brock would basically be doing the same thing, so I don't think that there would be a huge difference.

[RonDrakenfan17]

Well, that was two actual D/Posters.
I don't think they ever had leaked Sketches at that time so we couldn't tell if Brock was there at that time or not.
I think there just trying to keep the new character a suprise till Brock leaves. I just found it so odd that they wouldn't have Brock on there along with Ash and Team Rocket who has been in nearly just as many episodes. Sure he's not as popular as some characters, but neither is Team Rocket these days and there still on it. So, why not have Brock on the thing?? They could have him on it with new clothes like Ash. Some say they may do the exact oppisot with the boy and girl. Have the new guy be in contests and the new girl do nothing this time. That or have a new girl do a brand new thing. Its just I don't think they've done any of this in the past Generations with Brock.

[NewcomerDC]

Pokebeach has some screenshots from a Best Wishes commercial, I see:

http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/exclusi...nknown-pokemon

I now officially deem Zekrom as Nightmare Fuel... ain't no freakin' way I'd wanna meet it in a dark alley.

EDIT: That link doesn't work guys, sorry about that... but you gotta go to the Main Page of Pokebeach to see it.

Surprised that the guy who posted the news in the link hated the new film. Wonder what was so terrible with it?