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TV-14....... Oh, really? I doubt those kids even have one armpit hair yet.
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Funimation can demonize One Piece all they want - they still can't change the cartoony elements, the looming bias against it in America, the frequent juvenile gags, and the fact that half the cast at times look like Muppets.
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Yes, it's already been said a dozen times. A day.
Mature content is skewed towards lower target audiences in Japan. Mild-medium violence, suggestive sexual content, and even cases of actual nudity, are acceptable for 9-12 year olds... in Japan.
In America, whether you agree with it or not, we skew those things to 13 and up.
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Originally Posted by Kaiser0120
If it was "Mature" content it would not be in an "immature" cartoon.
Why do most dubbing companies add in profanity to children's show's?
FUNimation's YYH handeling was darn near defamy with all the language they added into the dub and subs. If I can contact Togashi one day, I'll let him know what FUNimation did to his series.
Super Hero cartoons (expecialy DCAU stuff) have "content" that (if they were Japanese) dubbing companies would likely release them with a TV-14 rating. Heck, Emma Frost (on Wolverine and the X-Men) would likely have her top painted out on a TV release if she was a Japanese cartoon character.
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Well, mature content is subjective. A mom could find kissing in a child's cartoon to be objectionable, while another mother could find showing a girls panties to be acceptable. It varies from household to household, culture to culture.
Because FUNimation knows very well they're aiming for older audiences in America. The Japanese don't really HAVE swear words, they only have words that more coarsely and directly communicate their frustration and intent. Out here, he have swear words. Considering the violence and otherwise "adult" content in a lot of their shows, especially Yu Yu Hakusho, they decided to add swears to match the attitude being construed through the visuals and the writing.
Not to mention, Togashi's work has always been skewed to higher ages, though still within the shonen-age range.
Lastly, lolwhut? Togashi wouldn't give a crap about what FUNimation has done with Yu Yu Hakusho. As Akira Toriyama wouldn't care what they did with DragonBall. Furthermore, most people on this board LIKE the Yu Yu Hakusho dub anyway.
Also, what word were you trying to say with defamy...?
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Because otherwise they would have to edit top-hats and monocles if they translated literally. Japan is a very conservative and polite language.Why do most dubbing companies add in profanity to children's show's?
"MOAR money? You crazy dog, FUNi."FUNimation's YYH handeling was darn near defamy with all the language they added into the dub and subs. If I can contact Togashi one day, I'll let him know what FUNimation did to his series.
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So, out of curiosity, in the thread you just made about this subject just with JUMP comics and GW said "This is spammy" you didn't think that maybe this topic might be, I don't know, spammy?
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Saying that Toriyama and Togashi don't care how their series are handeled makes no sense. How do you explain what's going on after Nick Simmons and other people are/ are likely about to get sued for plagerizing direct panels from KuboTite's series "Bleach" in the comic "Incarnate". Kubo was notified by fans over the internet.
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Uh, obviously you didn't pay attention to Tite's response.
He didn't. Care.
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Kubo doesn't care, says so himself. He's more worried Nick was a comic book writer. Learn to research.Kubo was notified by fans over the internet.
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I guess Oda isn't the only Japanese artist who doesn't care his art was plagerized *cough*Hiro Mashima*Cough*
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They both worked with Nobuhiro Watsuki, as did Takei Hiroyuki of Shaman King fame.
Notice how they all have slightly similar art? ... 'cept Watsuki, but shush.
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The "working together" thing is an unproven theory. My brothers have personally translated nearly 60 volumes of One Piece and have never heard Oda mention anything about working with Mashima.
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That's nice.
They worked with Nobuhiro Watsuki, though. Which is what I referred to in my post.
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Whether they worked together or not, plagerism is still plagerism.
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The thing is, it's very believable and possible they developed their styles together. Similar styles=/=plagiarism.
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I would just like to say that I find it amusing how people get mad at companies like FUNimation or Viz for adding swearing, but when fansubs do it nobody calls them out on it.
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I can't get this image out of my head now.
You have just ruined my sub-watching experience.
I don't watch fansubs, but even I have heard some complaints of added fansub cursing. Like this little gem:
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Well not usually but I call BS when I see f-bombs in fan translations of DBZ.
Content standards being different in every country will always cause oddities in marketing but One Piece, Yu Yu Hakusho, Bleach, Dragonball, Naruto, etc by US television standards is at least TV-PG and occasionally TV-14. Of they uncut box sets are rated TV-14 as a buffer rating but not all the episodes would be TV-14 aired uncut on US television depending on the channel.
Thing is though, those shows do have violent content along with sexual humor and scantily clad women along with a WHOLE LOT of immature stuff which is more so what defines them as children's entertainment in some countries but to air on US television with a PG or Y7 rating requires edits. I don't mind edits to get a show targeted at the audience it was intended for but when it comes to DVDs I want uncut and if uncut requires a TV-14 rating then so be it. Teenagers 12-17 and young adults between 18 and 24 are the primary buyers of anime and therefore anime is almost always marketed to those buyers for home video distribution and such. It's not mis-targeting it's making the most of the market that wants those shows.
We've seen what happens when shows like One Piece, Shaman King, Dragonball, etc. are aimed at 7 year olds here by companies that primarily or soley want that kid audience. And it doesn't usually turn out well and nobody wants any show to only get an edited dub only release here.
But on the topic of adding swearing. The violence in One Piece would push it to TV-14 on occasion. It didn't need swearing to accomplish that. Personally I felt they kind of over-did-it on the swearing in the first box set but it's a more natural amount now so I don't mind it.
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I think this proves the point that OP is targeted towards kids in Japan, while teens here. I wonder what other anime this applies to ... I am going to favorite that video, it can come in handy.
At least 4kids had the idea it was meant for kids somewhere ...
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