Toon Zone Talkback - "Fafner": Feel the Angst While Drinking Your Bebop Cola!

[Duke]

This is the talkback thread for "Fafner": Feel the Angst While Drinking Your Bebop Cola!.

Kazuki: Must...resist...being...happy... Fangirls...don't...want...me...to...be...happy... Must...angst...angst...angst...angst...angst...

And, as usual, the splash:



And since no Fafner-related topic would be complete without it, the iconic final shot of the end credits, courtesy of Go-Chin:

[Conan-san]

I've probably not been the first to make such a statement, but why does the middle chracter look like Mirilira and the right one Athrun?

[Go-chin]

I've probably not been the first to make such a statement, but why does the middle chracter look like Mirilira and the right one Athrun?

because Hisashi Hirai has about 3 character designs, total.

[Beat]

because Hisashi Hirai has about 3 character designs, total.

And they get reused more than the jokes on Sealab 2021.

Well, the title referenced Sealab.

[G1Ravage]

because Hisashi Hirai has about 3 character designs, total.

Yeah, no kidding.

KIIIIIIRAAAAAA

Athrun? Athrun ZALA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?111111lolz

[Baseball]

Wow, those designs are too similar to GS/GSD. Shinn, Athrey, and Stellariallia.

I'm still thinking about buying it, but I'm not sure. I get enough angst from Gundam Seed Destiny...

[Demonic Raven]

Left to right: Rey, Mirialia/Stellar, Shinn/Athrun.

I don't dislike Hirai's designs, but you can only have so many similar looking characters. Eh, oh well.

This sounds like a series I'd be able to like, but the biggest thing holding me back would be the robot design, specifically the Fafner. It doesn't click as well for me, either.

[Duke]

And they get reused more than the jokes on Sealab 2021.

Well, the title referenced Sealab.

That's because the security company is named "Alvis," the same name as the fake religion created on Sealab. If I was an actually good at writing comedy, the entire review would be a Sealab/Fafner crossover.

[Artimus Gigan]

And they get reused more than the jokes on Sealab 2021.

Well, the title referenced Sealab.

I thought it was a double reference

Bebop Cola= Sealab

Bebop= Cowboy Bebop


Because Fafner takes place in the future and has parts in SPAAAACE

[FlyByNite77]

I actually liked Fafner, yea it's overly-dramatic and angst-ridden, but I liked that it was a bit darker and had some good moments to it.

Should have picked someone other than Hisashi Hirai though.

[HellCat]

I'm personally seeing Regalli, Murrue and Shathrun. Who wants to create a conspiracy theory somehow connecting all the series this guy has worked on?

[Scirel]

Who are you seeing?
I clearly see Rey, Stellar, andd Athrun.

[Youko Recca]

You just have to hate the way he makes his characters look sad. No wait. You have to LAUGH. Seriously, everytime I see a Kira or Kazuma looking sad I burst out laughing. Yeah, it's no wonder you're so sad Kira #308. Do it for the sake of freakin' comedy.

As for this show. Eh, I never really got into it. Wasn't bad for what I saw, but didn't pull me in.

[HellCat]

Who are you seeing?
I clearly see Rey, Stellar, andd Athrun.

It's like one of those Magic Eye pictures- everyone sees something different

[Scirel]

I don`t really see(or have) a problem with his designs other than that they are similar to each other. IMO, they looks fine on their own.

[HellCat]

I don`t really see(or have) a problem with his designs other than that they are similar to each other. IMO, they looks fine on their own.

I agree with you that viewing them in their own isolated series they're ok. Even there though that can be a stretch (compare a good number of the Destiny designs to the SEED designs). It doesn't help that he's getting more and more projects, meaning that we're seeing the work of a 'designer' who already stretches himself thin coming off as even worse, as his projects begin to lose any kind of individual flair. If you look at a designer's work and are straight off reminded strongly of something else from a seperate piece of work they've done, that's bad design. Plus, his designs need to stay on model or they look even worse. I can cite a number of times in SEED and SEED Destiny when the animator's have gone off model and made the character designs look a) really ugly

Spoiler:

Drowning Stellar suddenly looking really butch, for instance

b) even more like other designs of his (Kira and Cagalli in the second SEED OP, Stellar looking like Flay in the second Destiny OP, etc).

[Karl Olson]

Fafner had a great OST, and that was about it IMO. Seriously, loved Angela's OP/ED, loved the work done by the Warsaw Symphony Orchestra IIRC (real symphony with great music and arrangements > the usual poorly arranged synth junk.)

[Go-chin]

Fafner had a great OST, and that was about it IMO. Seriously, loved Angela's OP/ED, loved the work done by the Warsaw Symphony Orchestra IIRC (real symphony with great music and arrangements > the usual poorly arranged synth junk.)

On that note, the Warsaw Symphony was also used for the Sousei no Aquarion OST. Go check it out.