Enhance Your Power - Gundam SEED Destiny Talkback, Part 4 (SPOILERS!)

[Riza Hawkeye]

Athrun over Shinn, and this has nothing to do with my dislike for Shinn because he is a good pilot. Even though, Shinn has his 'berserker SEED-mode', Athrun has his own SEED-mode that he has yet to show in Destiny. Athrun got the short end of the stick in Saviour and I don't think he was able to show exactly what that machine was capable of doing. Part of that can be traced back to Athrun mixed feelings because I don't believe he really want to kill Orb soliders, even if they were the enemy. Shinn was the opposite, as Duke stated, his attitude was more along the lines of, 'All my enemies must die!' so he hasn't held back at all.

I believe that Athrun is a better pilot than Shinn and that he would win if he were to ever battle Shinn.

[Kaus]

I believe that Athrun is a better pilot than Shinn and that he would win if he were to ever battle Shinn.

I bet he'd go SEED-mode in that battle because I'm pretty sure Athrun would love to shut Shinn's mouth once and for all. Especially after the last episode.

[Riza Hawkeye]

I bet he'd go SEED-mode in that battle because I'm pretty sure Athrun would love to shut Shinn's mouth once and for all. Especially after the last episode.

If you're thinking that would be enough to send Athrun into SEED-mode, just imagine this; imagine if Kira wasn't there to step in and protect Cagalli in 28 when Shinn fired on her unprovoked. It's a little disappointing that, Athrun did nothing to stop the attack on Cagalli, he stopped Kira when he was going to disable Impluse (Athrun knew Kira wouldn't kill him), and he didn't set Shinn right about attacking Cagalli for no reason.

Someone needs to set Shinn straight soon before he falls more into the darkside, to use a SW analogy. The only two chatacters in the show that have the ablity to takedown Shinn are Athrun and Kira, as far as I can tell.

[Juu-kuchi]

Dullindal: Gentlemen! BEHOLD! The Legend Gundam!!!!

ZGMF-X666S Legend Gundam
Head gatling machine guns x 2 MMI-GAU26 17.5mm CIWS
Wrist beam shield generator x 2 MX2351 Solidus Fulgor
Back DRAGOON (beam spike equipment type) x 2 GDU-X7 assault beam machine gun
Back & waist DRAGOON (general type) x 8 GDU-X5 assault beam machine gun
Beam javelin x 2 MA-M80S Defiant Kai beam javelin
Beam rifle MA-BAR78F high-energy rifle

Pilot: Rey Za Burrel

Now you know what the heck is that Gundam alongside Destiny and Impulse.

[Riza Hawkeye]

So Providence MkII finally gets a name...Legend Gundam...I think that's worse then Destroy Gundam

EDIT: Specs for Strike Freedom Gundam, if anyone's interested:

ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam
Head machine guns x 2: MMI-GAU27D 31mm CIWS, fire-linked x 2
Abdomen large beam cannon: MGX-2235 Callidus multi-phase beam cannon
Hip beam sabers x 2: M02G Super Lacerta (Speel Lacerta?)
Hip railguns x 2: MMI-M15E Xiphias 3 railcannon
Arm beam sheild: MX2200 beam sheild
Beam rifle: MA-M21KF high-energy beam rifle

[Juu-kuchi]

So Providence MkII finally gets a name...Legend Gundam...I think that's worse then Destroy Gundam

It's sad that they can't make up words like the other AU Gundam series.

I don't understand what it should be considered a "Legend". But that makes four Gundams on the Minerva's side, since Zakus are unreliable scrap that only serve to stay onboard the ship because most of the time they were deployed in the series they had to stay on it because they can't fly or hover in water. Oh and before we continue to amass a large number of pages...

HA HA! ...Enhance.

[Demonic Raven]

So...a new Providence complete with DRAGOONs, and of course Rey is weilding it. Heh, finally Rey will have a much better chance to shine. This should be cool.

[Van Fleihight]

Have any pictures of this Legend Gundam been released or is it one of the gundams in the 3rd ending?

Also, Kira is treated like a god cause he is the "ultimate coordinator". Whatever he does is uber compared to everybody else.


I really think they're starting to run out of names for Gundams.

[Duke]

I really think they're starting to run out of names for Gundams.

Really? What gave you that idea?

I can't wait to see what names the'll come up with for the next SEED series.

Whaddya wanna bet they just took random words out of the English dictionary, put them in a hat, and then picked them at random?

I'm surprised there hasn't been a Liberty Gundam yet. I guess that's the new Freedom next series or something...

[Ryoutarou]

Didn't the first few Gundam names actually have meanings? No...That was the end of SEED and it would mean these names weren't just random...

[Riza Hawkeye]

Have any pictures of this Legend Gundam been released or is it one of the gundams in the 3rd ending?

It is the Gundam from the 3rd ending, but if you want pics:

Legend Gundam (from 3rd ED)
Legend Gundam (in color)
Legend Gundam (lineart)

[Riza Hawkeye]

Sorry about the double post, but since this is unrelated to Legend Gundam, I'm making this another post...

From Gunota: Spoilers for 34-36 of Destiny
Episode 34

Spoiler:

"Nightmare" - The world is shocked by Dullindal's statement. In the middle of confusion, Archangel decides to return to Orb. However, Archangel is run down by ZAFT forces. Minerva is also given order to attack Archangel.

Episode 35

Spoiler:

"In the Light of Chaos" (*note* Hobby Japan has the title listed as "Ahead of Chaos")- Having lost Freedom, the badly damaged Archangel heads to Orb. Accompanying Dullindal, Meer goes to Earth. Minerva enters the port of Gibraltar and receives two new MS, Destiny and Legend.

Episode 36

Spoiler:

- Athrun Escapes

Some very interesting things,

Spoiler:

looks like Athrun isn't staying with ZAFT, unless the spoiler for 36 means something else. I've wondered why Infinate Justice wasn't shown at the end of the 3rd ending with Impluse, Destiny, and Legend.

[Ryoutarou]

Sorry about the double post, but since this is unrelated to Legend Gundam, I'm making this another post...

From Gunota: Spoilers for 34-36 of Destiny
Episode 34

Spoiler:

"Nightmare" - The world is shocked by Dullindal's statement. In the middle of confusion, Archangel decides to return to Orb. However, Archangel is run down by ZAFT forces. Minerva is also given order to attack Archangel.

Episode 35

Spoiler:

"In the Light of Chaos" (*note* Hobby Japan has the title listed as "Ahead of Chaos")- Having lost Freedom, the badly damaged Archangel heads to Orb. Accompanying Dullindal, Meer goes to Earth. Minerva enters the port of Gibraltar and receives two new MS, Destiny and Legend.

Episode 36

Spoiler:

- Athrun Escapes

Some very interesting things,

Spoiler:

looks like Athrun isn't staying with ZAFT, unless the spoiler for 36 means something else. I've wondered why Infinate Justice wasn't shown at the end of the 3rd ending with Impluse, Destiny, and Legend.

Wasn't there an episode spoiler saying that

Spoiler:

Athrun would join Archangel after defeating Destroy?

[Riza Hawkeye]

Wasn't there an episode spoiler saying that

Spoiler:

Athrun would join Archangel after defeating Destroy?

Spoiler:

Probably, but there have been so many spoilers floating around, some fake and some real. It's impossible to keep track of all of them.

[Ryoutarou]

Weren't these the ones that were proven to be real though?

[Riza Hawkeye]

Weren't these the ones that were proven to be real though?

*shrugs* I don't remember, but apparently so.

[Will Sturnick]

Shinn has the dubious honor of being the first main Gundam pilot that I utterly hate. Before him, they would just get on my nerves from time to time (Camille and Kira mostly). But Shinn, is far too cocky and arrogant. I can understand his anger for the death of his family, but he's far too unreasonable. He refuses to take any blame that he rightfully deserves. He needs to get severely beaten. Plus, no one talks back to Athrun and gets away with it! I think he just needs to lose a battle, he's more or less won all the battles he's fought. Except when Freedom sliced Impulse's arm off, that doesn't really count since Shinn never did any actual fighting against Freedom, IIRC. I think Kira and/or Athrun should get the honor of utterly defeated Shinn. Perhaps they will kill him. *pictures Shinn's cockpit getting pierced by a Freedom beam saber*

On the subject of Kira...I officially retract all my "Kira/ArchAngel is/are too self-righteous" statements. In light of recent events in the show (and GWO's "long post" on the subject towards the end of part 3), I re-evaluated my opinion of him and realized that I mostly agree with the AA's stance on things.

It seems Rey is joining the cocky club, at least that's the impression I got from 31. Perhaps some Rau is peaking through. I assume that next episode will have Gundam destruction left and right, since it's about time for the second wave to be revealed.

Backtracking a bit to episode 28 (sorry I didn't post my thoughts then), it's a shame to see Saviour go down that easily. Considering it only was in about 5 battles and, as said before, never got a true chance to shine. It was just their to sell model kits. It may as well have been a super-chaged Zaku as far as the plot was concerned. It was about as effective as one anyway.

One more thing, when will Lacus make her move? She's been in space for what has to be about three weeks in "show time." What has she been doing, writing a new song aboard the Eternal? Actually, that could be, we're due for a new Lacus song. "Mizu no Akashi" debuted around this time in SEED, so perhaps we'll get one in the mid-30's of Destiny as well.

Although I'm a few days late...Happy (Belated) Birthday, GWOtaku!

[Kaus]

Episode 36

Spoiler:

- Athrun Escapes

Some very interesting things,

Spoiler:

looks like Athrun isn't staying with ZAFT, unless the spoiler for 36 means something else. I've wondered why Infinate Justice wasn't shown at the end of the 3rd ending with Impluse, Destiny, and Legend.

Spoiler:

If so, it's weird how it's around the same (or the same) episode number that Athrun helps Kira at Orb in SEED.

God can only hope. If so, Athrun will once again move up the scale and kick some serious ass, this is gonna be great, I wonder what this will mean to Lunamaria and Meyrin.

As for rumors and such, the 36 one said Athrun defeated a ZAFT-rebuilt Destroy Gundam with the Infinite Justice and joined the Archangel and gives Kira the Nu Freedom.

[Scirel]

I think it`s pretty obvious by now that Shinn is supposed to be hated.

Looking at future spoilers, Shinn will get even more cocky. Heck, by some act of god he`ll manage to

Spoiler:

beat freedom with impulse

, and this is after he gets pissed at Kira.

Shinn is definitely going to become a villain, which IMO, is an interesting twist.

[Neo-Era]

To settle an issue and spark a debate. Who would win in a fight? Athrun or Shinn?

Nameless Destiny staff members answer fan questions every month in Comic Bon Bon. Last time, someone asked who the top 3 pilots in the show were and the response was this: "If we compare only their pure abilities, Kira is indisputably at the top. A little behind him is Shinn and following that is Athrun."