Ash and Misty: When do you think they'll hook up?

[I.R Joey]

You must be blind (or not watching Pokemon both of which are understandable) to have not caught on to all the implications and foreshadowing of Ash+Misty. Dr B seems to be in agreement with me about it judging from his review of the Todadile ep. I just can't helop thinking that sooner or later he two of them are just going to go for it, and become an item? Opinions

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by I.R Joey
You must be blind (or not watching Pokemon both of which are understandable) to have not caught on to all the implications and foreshadowing of Ash+Misty. Dr B seems to be in agreement with me about it judging from his review of the Todadile ep. I just can't helop thinking that sooner or later he two of them are just going to go for it, and become an item? Opinions

When Charlie Brown and Peppermint Patty hook up. When Lucy and Schroeder hook up. When Sally and Linus....you get the picture.

[Lonestarr]

Originally posted by Leap Larry Jojo


When Charlie Brown and Peppermint Patty hook up. When Lucy and Schroeder hook up. When Sally and Linus....you get the picture.

Or Arnold and Helga...

[RockItShipper]

I think "Misty" is far more interested in "Brock" myself. I've seen five episodes past the Johto series and she's still pulling him away ear-first. It's a few years away from being a couple but I see that happening alot more likely than the AAML beast.

I think "Ash" will end up with "Jessie" if she ditches TR (hint hint- it's the BC team that the police are looking for now), or "Casey", or "Duplica"... Or, well, let's just say I'm more open to the concept of ShiShi now.

[I.R Joey]

Okay but remember the spisode in the Orange Island leauges where Misty meets that one guys who wants her to be his girlfreind/wife (I can't descide), and then when she starts rooting for Ash he has an epiphany.

"She wants him."

Then he later tells Ash how lucky a guy he is. Ash doesn't understand that, then the guy says you will someday. Come on he was obviously alluding to Misty + Ash=couple.


BTW: The reason she keeps dragging Broc away IMO is because he's making an idiot out of himself, not because of envy. Heck I'd do the same thing regardless of my gender if someone associate with me started acting like that.

[HellCat]

According to reports from Japan, they pretty much are. They are doing the holding hands thing. Although, they still won't say it.

[RockItShipper]

Also notice how the ear-pulling started becoming a habit AFTER "Brock" came back? I think AAML was a possibility during the OL but when "Brock" came back...

And if it's such a big deal that "Brock" acts like that, how come "Ash" doesn't help "Misty" out with keeping him in check?

[I.R Joey]

And if it's such a big deal that "Brock" acts like that, how come "Ash" doesn't help "Misty" out with keeping him in check?

This is a good point, but I think I have an answer. Usually while Broc is flirting Ash is trying to get info about a Pokemon or something out of the person.

1. Another thing to add, look at the way Ash and Misty are always arguing with one another. Don't that scream to you guys "They're going to be an item?"

[DR. BELCH]

I've half-jokingly called them "lovebirds" in my reviews for some time...and it does seem to me that Misty sublimates her feelings for Ash and Brock with her fits of temper, arguing and ear-pulling. RockItShipper and I have discussed this at length by e-mail, and as she said, she thinks Ash and Jessy should get together. As I said in my review this week: "[Jessy] strikes me as the one member of [Team Rocket] who has enough moxy to make it on her own, after some intensive psychotherapy and the right lover who can bring out her vulnerability without exploiting her. I don't know if Ash is that man, but if he once said to her, "You know when that Scyther chopped off all your hair and we laughed at you? I was being an a-hole and going along with the group. I thought you looked pretty with short hair", Jessy's heart would melt like a marshmallow. The question is, can she be trusted? Could Ash love her enough to bed her, feeling confident she won't steal his Pokemon and his wallet in the middle of the night, soap something obscene on the bathroom mirror, and skip town while he's asleep?"
The way I see it, Misty has a strange sort of non-carnal menage a trois thing going on with the two men in her llife. Ash, like most men, is clueless and would probably like a woman who isn't afraid to make the first move--IMO, most men are like that, reluctant to be the first to say "I love you" in a relationship. Misty should just stop denying herself and grab Ash's--ahem--hand to let him know how she feels.
Now...would it last? Mabe a few months, but Ash's dream of Pokemon mastery is strong, and she might feel he isn't responsive enough to her needs. She's a classy dame who wants the flowers, the chocolates, the nice dinners. Ash is the type of guy who wants to sit around the living room in his yellowing underwear, watch porn, and drink beer. She loves his determination but hates his aloofness. So they break it off but remain friends, and Misty gravitates towards Brock's more tender and attentive nature. By then maybe she wouldn't be a statutory rape charge waiting to happen. Listen to the exchange in "For Crying Out Loud" when Brock mentions he wants to chat up a pretty girl standing on a cliff and Misty says she'll probably jump off--surprisingly catty for her. It's as if she's hoping to see this rival meet an untimely and gruesome end. Sure, Misty isn't as overtly sexual as Ryoko in Tenchi Muyo, but she's no less a woman.
If Jessy would stop being so proud and square up, maybe she and Ash could be lovers--she shows signs of wanting to give up the Rocket life in "Forest Grumps". Casey I don't know about--she strikes me as a little nuts and borderline masochist. When she grabbed Pikachu and begged to be shocked, I was all, "Get out the candle wax and bondage straps! She's a party girl!"
As far as Ash's attitude towards Brock's hitting on every broad he sees, he did once tell him (loudly) that he was acting like he'd gone insane. He generally tries to ignore that kind of thing, however.

[I.R Joey]

IMO James has a better chance (if the rumors are not true ) then Ash does with Jesse. Maybe it's just me but Ash and Jess seem very incompatible, and I think there is to much of a diffrence between them. All the times she's tried everything from stealing his Pokemon (and we know how much Ash loves his Pokemon,) to trying to disrupt the natural enviroment.

And another thing Misty wants to be a water Pokemon master right? It seems to me that her and Ash's futures might be closer intwined then your thinking. Broc seems like the odd man out here as he wants to be a Pokemon breeder.


BTW Can you believe we're talking about this so seriously???

[killercroc05]

you people are seriously messed up. no offense, but how old are you guys? and why are you talking about this?

[RockItShipper]

http://www.angelfire.com/de2/link/Pallet/how.html

[RockItShipper]

And another thing Misty wants to be a water Pokemon master right? It seems to me that her and Ash's futures might be closer intwined then your thinking. Brock seems like the odd man out here as he wants to be a Pokemon breeder.

You didn't see the episode with the lecherous "Doctor Proctor", did you? "Misty" expresses interest in pursuing a career in Pokemon medicine. Seems a lot closer to a career in Pokemon breeding than training. Add that up with the gym-leader background, the scene where "Brock" was expressing interest in the mermaid performer later in the "Misty Mermaid" ep, the ear-pulls that "Brock" reciprocates later in Johto...

I just can't see AAML. Especially since "Ash" is a determined little guy as well as protective of his friends and then some. It's not hard to pick a character at random and be able to write a "I love Ash" story. And he's so clueless, like most anime leads I've come across, that he'd be none the wiser.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by killercroc05
you people are seriously messed up. no offense, but how old are you guys? and why are you talking about this?

Because the show really does tease it all the time. Dontcha know people love unrequited love. It's also fun.

[DR. BELCH]

Originally posted by L.L. Jojo :
Dontcha know people love unrequited love.

That and love triangles...but like I've said before, they're better for watching than being in. I'm 25 and I know Rocky's five years younger, but there's nothing wrong with reading between the lines...g.d. if it isn't expected, esp. with anime. I talked in another post about a very suggestive...ahem...exchange concerning Tenchi Muyo's Aiaka and Ryoko--two bitter enemies sharing a very friendly moment. Not to mention innumerable times their dialogue seems to be heavily censored (in one Aiaka accuses Ryoko of being full of baloney or malarkey or some such thing, but I have a feeling the original Japanese would translate to something far more off-color).

I.R. Joey:
Maybe it's just me but Ash and Jess seem very incompatible, and I think there is to much of a diffrence between them. All the times she's tried everything from stealing his Pokemon...to trying to disrupt the natural enviroment.

That's what I thought at first, but Rocky made a point that the two of them share a common element: loss of parents. Ash's father is inexplicably absent (some suspect it's actually ol' Sam Oak), as is Jessy's old man (I have a theory it's Giovanni), then her mother skipped out on her when she was young...so her fear of abandonment coupled with her failures in life would explain why she's psychologically so frigged up (and to me fascinating). Sure, there's trust issues to work out...but Ash wouldn't be the first guy to fall for someone who's his polar opposite, or the first to fall for the wrong dame.
Misty and Ash have similar goals, but like I said, she likes classy and mature guys, and Ash would probably devote himself to his Pokemon...sort of like the Southern husband whose wife complains he spends too much time with his hunting dogs. Misty, once she grows up a little, might even nix the shorts and sneakers, put on dresses, and act the part of debutante like her sisters; I see older Ash walking around shirtless and smashing beer cans on his forehead for her amusement (which she hates). I see them as a typical couple, really--she likes romantic movies and the sort of stuff they run on Lifetime; he appalls her by watching horror movies and skin flicks (which Jessy also enjoys, except that weird gay man-on-man German stuff James rents ). Brock at least is a gentleman, if you can forgive his tendency to go gaga over anything in a skirt.
Actually, I see several striking similarities between Jessy and Ryoko--both are bad girls who want to be good (though Ryoko tries harder at it) and each definitely has a strong libido.

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH

I talked in another post about a very suggestive...ahem...exchange concerning Tenchi Muyo's Aiaka and Ryoko--two bitter enemies sharing a very friendly moment.

You really should see this site. Y'know, it really does make sense...
http://www.sutic.nu/rasl/

That's what I thought at first, but Rocky made a point that the two of them share a common element: loss of parents. Ash's father is inexplicably absent (some suspect it's actually ol' Sam Oak), as is Jessy's old man (I have a theory it's Giovanni), then her mother skipped out on her when she was young...so her fear of abandonment coupled with her failures in life would explain why she's psychologically so frigged up (and to me fascinating). Sure, there's trust issues to work out...but Ash wouldn't be the first guy to fall for someone who's his polar opposite, or the first to fall for the wrong dame.
Misty and Ash have similar goals, but like I said, she likes classy and mature guys, and Ash would probably devote himself to his Pokemon...sort of like the Southern husband whose wife complains he spends too much time with his hunting dogs. Misty, once she grows up a little, might even nix the shorts and sneakers, put on dresses, and act the part of debutante like her sisters; I see older Ash walking around shirtless and smashing beer cans on his forehead for her amusement (which she hates). I see them as a typical couple, really--she likes romantic movies and the sort of stuff they run on Lifetime; he appalls her by watching horror movies and skin flicks (which Jessy also enjoys, except that weird gay man-on-man German stuff James rents ).

Now now now... "Jess'" may well have a voyeur streak in her. I don't think she'd mind watching yaoi hentai- maybe even picking up some yaoi doujishis(sp) for herself. But "Ash" probably wouldn't have the stomach for it, much like "Misty" with girl-girl videos. So that's resolved by a old-fashioned TR Girls Night with poor "Meowth" wishing he was elsewhere.

Brock at least is a gentleman, if you can forgive his tendency to go gaga over anything in a skirt.

I think that's a bit of a looking thing. I mean, only one woman has shown interest and it would seem that he wasn't all over the place then. It also seems he's more of a romantic than a leech. Not to go too far in DB-lore but the twerps are very similiar to Goku, Bloomer and Yamcha. Bloomer was two years older than Goku and they fought alot for reasons related to Goku's cluelessness etc. Yamcha was afraid of girls but wound up overcoming it and hooking up with Bloomer. And all that was resolved in a story arc. Pokemon's dragging it out a bit more, even going a bit AAML when TV Tokyo was allegedly thinking of dropping "Brock" altogether. But it would seem that BAML is the intention, with "Ash" being the one character without much in the way of personal romantic issues. So the younger kids don't have to hear about the mushy stuff from the main character and others can speculate on ShiShi. (Although, I think there really needs to be clear proof that "Gary" isn't his nephew first, y'know? It's funny with the Digiblondes but that's about it)

Actually, I see several striking similarities between Jessy and Ryoko--both are bad girls who want to be good (though Ryoko tries harder at it) and each definitely has a strong libido.

You've seen the x-over fanart at Pokemopolis, haven't you?

[I.R Joey]

I'm sorry guys, but why would the writers make so many obvious (not hidden allusions let me count)

The one where Misty and Ash battle for the cascade badge. Her sisters make implications.

The one with Metwo and when Misty tells Gary's girlfreinds, about how she doesn't cry when he looses a battle. Ash shouts "she's just kidding."

The episode Broc leaves. Ash an Misty get caught in team R's blimp and they begin ti say that they've caught two love birds. Ash and Misty both blush then deny it.

As mentioned before the episode with the dude trying to court Misty, and added to that the episode where that one gym leader Dan (Misty's crushing on him) talks about Ash and Misty being a couple. She continually deny's that she's not into twirps. Writers translation: She'll be interested sooner then you may think.


There are probably more of them as well.

[Scythemantis]

Silly killercroc,your never too old for things like this :P


...Actually arnold and helga WILL be hooking up.Theyre making a hey arnold movie,then a spinoff starring just helga`s family and much later a different series where theyre older and arnold and helga are together,I think...

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by I.R Joey
The one where Misty and Ash battle for the cascade badge. Her sisters make implications.

And are portrayed as bimbos, more or less.

The one with Mewtwo and when Misty tells Gary's girlfriends, about how she doesn't cry when he loses a battle. Ash shouts "she's just kidding."

First off, that sounds more like "Ash" doesn't want to lose face in front of "Gary". In fact, that particular ep is often cited as evidence of Palletshipping/ShiShi rather than AAML/Twerpshipping. Which I posted a link about in this thread.

The episode Brock leaves. Ash and Misty get caught in team R's blimp and they begin to say that they've caught two love birds. Ash and Misty both blush then deny it.

Because "Ash" is barely out of the cooties stage? Because as I said earlier, AAML is stressed far more during the OL. Maybe if "Ash" had responded then, it would have happened. But as great a kid as he is, I see "Misty" as taking advantage of what is essentially a second chance with "Brock". Certainly the whole ear-pull thing indicates that. Next season there's even an ep where he winds up having to pull a blabbing "Misty" away from a male researcher. No doubt "Ash" will grow up nicely, but I think "Misty" will have grown up quite a bit and caught "Brock's" eye by then.

[Inque]

for those of you who have the first pokemon soundtrack to the tv show (including me, i have no clue why), there's a song called misty's song. It's basically a love song to ash. she actually says "i love you" at the end. too bad ash is asleep.