I"s manga censored

**Pepperidge** · 03-28-2005, 05:31 PM

It's been more or less confirmed in this thread at the AoD boards that Viz's upcoming release of the I"s graphic novel will be censored. I think jarhead said it best:

Thank you Viz for keeping the T+ demographic safe from the horrors of nipples.

**FlyByNite77** · 03-28-2005, 05:42 PM

LAME! If you're going to put readers through such a long drawn-out manga with such an indecisive male lead you gotta leave the nipples man!

That's the only thing that got me through it...

**Yash** · 03-28-2005, 05:43 PM

Isn't that in the Shonen Jump Advanced line?

So, aim for an older audience but still censor crap anyway? *sigh*

**livingfruitvirus** · 03-28-2005, 06:00 PM

First CMX, now this.

**Beat** · 03-28-2005, 06:07 PM

Well, you know what to do.

Not buy them, and tell anyone interested not to either. Shame.

**MrBananagrabber** · 03-28-2005, 06:39 PM

I don't know anything about this series other than a plot synopsis, but it's an odd choice. They leave nipples alone in the Dragonball manga (or so I've heard), Ranma, etc for years now, but this title edits them? I don't see the point of doing edits like that.

**Sandoz** · 03-28-2005, 06:52 PM

Hmmm. Viz left Masakazu Katsura's Video Girl Ai untouched as far as the nudity went, and that wasn't even part of an "advanced" line. This trend is starting to get depressing.

**Karl Olson** · 03-28-2005, 07:06 PM

How on earth can companies be so utterly deaf to their audience? Seriously, the people who buy manga want it uncut. Noone will pay for an edited product, especially in a niche market. It's sad that Del-Rey learned their lesson much faster than companies that have worked with comics for years.

**silverwings** · 03-28-2005, 07:14 PM

That's...odd. they are left in tact in all the other Viz works I've gotten (Hot Gimmick and Alice 19th come to mind).

It's just seems ironic. Or something..

**Karl Olson** · 03-28-2005, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by silverwings

That's...odd. they are left in tact in all the other Viz works I've gotten (Hot Gimmick and Alice 19th come to mind).

It's just seems ironic. Or something..

Ah but, Hot Gimmick and Alice 19th are shoujo titles and are therefore likely handled by a different side of Viz.

**silverwings** · 03-28-2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Karl Olson

Ah but, Hot Gimmick and Alice 19th are shoujo titles and are therefore likely handled by a different side of Viz.

Oh, I's isn't Shoujo? Sure seemed like it from the description I read..

**Fresh V** · 03-28-2005, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Karl Olson

Ah but, Hot Gimmick and Alice 19th are shoujo titles and are therefore likely handled by a different side of Viz.

Ah, but Dragon Ball is shonen, isn't it?

**Kouji Tamino** · 03-28-2005, 09:01 PM

Viz really confuses me. On one hand, they have great translations like Kenshin and a lot their titles remain unedited like Sensual Phrase. On the other hand, they change a lot of technique names like in Naruto and pull stuff like this. I guess it all depends on who handles it, I guess.

**Karl Olson** · 03-28-2005, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kouji Tamino

Viz really confuses me. On one hand, they have great translations like Kenshin and a lot their titles remain unedited like Sensual Phrase. On the other hand, they change a lot of technique names like in Naruto and pull stuff like this. I guess it all depends on who handles it, I guess.

Yeah, I think it's down to the given division and the licencing contract associated with that given manga.

Originally Posted by CoolSSJEnergy

Ah, but Dragon Ball is shonen, isn't it?

As is Midori's Days, which from what I've heard is gonna be intact. I think it's an issue of certain titles going threw shonen jump division. None of the other division seem to be affected, and even the shonen jump stuff isn't regularly wrecked up, which suggests different licencing rules on certain of those titles. Now that I think about it, there might also be some issue of certain translators/typesetters buckling under pressures and others not. However, this is clearly a problem limited to Viz's Shonen Jump line. Everything else has been left alone, and they are willing to wrap and sticker if need be to get a title on the shelf (Saikano.) It's very idiosyncratic.

**silvanoir** · 03-28-2005, 10:04 PM

It amazes me people get worked up over a little nudity being censored. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, since from what it sounds like it's only a tiny bit of editing, not like the whole panel is erased. Unless the manga (this one I know nothing about) dealing with mature issues is pivotal to the plot ... then I can see maybe being upset. But I don't see why you'd boycott the title if it's something you were planning to read over something so small.

Things like flipping the pages, changing names, and bad translations are more what I'd be concerned about. Spelling errors as well ... though it seems to be more rare these days, I remember a few things I picked up years ago that had missing letters and misspelled words, and that's just sad coming from a publishing company.

**MrBananagrabber** · 03-28-2005, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by silvanoir

It amazes me people get worked up over a little nudity being censored. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, since from what it sounds like it's only a tiny bit of editing, not like the whole panel is erased. Unless the manga (this one I know nothing about) dealing with mature issues is pivotal to the plot ... then I can see maybe being upset. But I don't see why you'd boycott the title if it's something you were planning to read over something so small.

Things like flipping the pages, changing names, and bad translations are more what I'd be concerned about. Spelling errors as well ... though it seems to be more rare these days, I remember a few things I picked up years ago that had missing letters and misspelled words, and that's just sad coming from a publishing company.

That argument depends on the defintion of things that are considered important. For you, that might not be the nipples, but it could be for other people. Even if that wasn't the case, I don't believe in any sort of censorship, even if it's something small. It sets a bad precedent. Even though I have no interest in this title and probably wouldn't buy it if it were unedited, if nobody makes it clear that editing is wrong, a title that I like might be edited. In a less selfish manner, it's not fair to the people who want to read and see it as it originally was.

**Fresh V** · 03-28-2005, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Karl Olson

As is Midori's Days, which from what I've heard is gonna be intact. I think it's an issue of certain titles going threw shonen jump division. None of the other division seem to be affected, and even the shonen jump isn't regularly wrecked up, which suggests different licencing rules on certain of those titles. Now that I think about it, there might also be some issue of certain translators/typesetters buckling under pressures and others not. However, this is clearly a problem limited to Viz's Shonen Jump line. Everything else has been left alone, and they are willing to wrap and sticker if need be to get a title on the shelf (Saikano.) It's very idiosyncratic.

But Dragonball is a Shonen Jump manga, too, but it's not in the magazine. That's the same with I"s. So why is I"s edited and not Dragon Ball?