Re: So why is it that some fans of U.S toons hate anime and vice versa?
As do I. I run a Toonami webpage (one of the biggest outputters of televised anime in this country), and one of my best buds work for ADV Films, a leading distributor. I was raised on good ol' American toons in the 80s, and of course classic Warner Bros. and MGM shorts (Disney cartoons were very rare in my household, and still very rare today).
Originally posted by I.R Joey
I never could get this, there are some people I've met that can sit down and watch a U.S toon with me, but they scoff at anime. Likewise I've seen some anime fans who say.
"Anything from the U.S stinks."
If you recal that one article I got from the IGN boards, about why this one guy doesn't like anime.
I for one consider myself a universal animation fan, IE I was flipping back and forth between Braceface, Ruroni Kenshin, PPG, and Evangelion. I don't see why some people act the way they do. Care to enlighten me?
The otaku sees Western animation as the "gaijin devil." They see bad acting, overcommercialization, and purely juvenile plots, storylines, and characters.
The Western fanboy sees anime as "big-eyed, seizure-causing rubbish." They see bad acting, overcommercialization, and full of senseless violence and nudity that fails to help the plot.
In a way, both are right, but in another light, they're totally missing it.
Both anime and Western animation have its strong points and its flaws. In my eyes, some anime can be convoluted and often straying from the general plot. Dragon Ball Z is a textbook case of it (the Freeza saga dedicated at least 10-15 episodes to a timeline of, get this, five minutes"). Then again, some western animation are often cliched and tries very hard to sell merchandise. Two separate series, Max Steel and Action Man, fall under this category so often, you can hardly tell which show is which (and now that Mainframe is animating them both, the lines will be blurred).
Now, anime producers take risks Western animators don't attempt to. It's not that our boys and girls won't take them, it's just that their bosses breathe down their collective necks if they'll create something that won't benefit them in the long run. However, some of the risks that anime producers take aren't worth taking. I heard there's a show where the chief protagonist is a flying piece of fecal matter.
Otakus criticize Western animation because they claim that it doesn't have rich stories. Obviously they've never looked at shows from the Timm/Dini/Burnett collective nor Mainframe shows like Shadow Raiders, Beast Wars/Machines, or ReBoot (primarily the third and current seasons). It's also a shame that otakus feel that way, because quite frankly, I wouldn't consider Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, nor Card Captor Sakura as shows with rich stories. Some shows do get noticed, like Gundam and Cowboy Bebop, but others, like Crest of the Stars, are virtually ignored, and this is one of the best series I know.
You see, I see anime and Western animation as one in the same. Why? Well, for starters, it's all cartoons, and second, they are all diverse. When a cartoon is good, it's good. Like people and straws, anime and Western animation all have the ability to suck equally.
It's just a matter of taste, and I just happen to love both flavors.
What does the X stand for? It's definitely not Extreme. Extreme starts with E.