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    Odds of Possible Future Toonami Shows

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    So the Samurai 7 announcement and DeMarco's recent Q&A both opened and closed a lot of possibilities for what might end up airing on Toonami. Older shows are now on the table but certain popular favorites like Outlaw Star, Trigun, and Gundam are off-limits for now. Neon Alley isn't an obstacle to getting Viz shows but prices may be.

    One thing is clear: the block is being heavily-driven by DeMarco and Manning's own tastes. Samurai 7 was a show they went after 6 years ago but got outbid on, so any favorites of theirs they didn't or couldn't air in the past (aside from BS&P rejections like Elfen Lied) are on the table. This makes the following all possibilities:

    -Last Exile
    -The Slayers
    -Escaflowne
    -Gurren Lagann
    -Magic Knights Rayearth
    -Martian Successor Nadesico
    -Serial Experiments Lain

    Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water and Saber Marionette J were also at one point or another considered for Toonami, but the former is older than Sailor Moon and the latter has kind of fallen off the face of the Earth, so I don't expect either to air.

    Of those, Last Exile seems the closest thing to a sure bet to air. It's probably cheap to pick up, it's got action, it's the same studio as Samurai 7, and there's a sequel series to air after if it's successful. DeMarco's lack of a "not likely"/"not now" response concerning Gurren Lagann makes it seem like a real possibility as well. The other shows listed may be bordering on too old but they each have something going for them: Slayers has newer series they could air, Escaflowne's animation quality for the most part holds up and would also provide both mecha action and girl power for the block, Rayearth would help appease those wanting Sailor Moon back, and both Nadesico and Lain have high-profile rereleases to promote (though Lain's light on action and might not fit the block so well).

    For shows that have already been on Toonami, it's sounding like FUNimation's probably easier to work with than Bandai. If any older shows end up coming back, I'd guess either YYH or Tenchi, the former being able to fill their desire for a long-running shonen, the latter having new episodes to premiere. I'd also guess WBA is easier to work with than CN Studios, given that they seem to be taking Thundercats as a serious possibility while describing MEGAS and Jack as unlikely to show up.

    Then there's the question of other shows. Is Baccano possible? Darker Than Black? Black Lagoon? There's been rumors of Hellsing coming to the block at some point. As far as newer releases goes, FUNimation has plenty of stuff to chose from, but I can't predict what will get on TV besides the fair certainty/hope Michiko to Hatchin will show up sometime next year. Panty and Stocking seems the biggest question mark, as the show FUNi clearly wants on TV but AS doesn't seem to be biting for whatever reason. Does anyone know if any of the higher-ups at AS actively dislike the show? Are the censorship hurdles too great? Or is it a money issue? What of Madoka Magica? And will Viz be willing to offer anything for a low enough price? Lots of questions.
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    Wait, I'd like to see that entire Jason DeMarco Q&A thing. I haven't heard anything in regards to Gundam, Trigun, and Outlaw Stars.

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    http://toonamifaithful.com/content.p...ason-DeMarco-Q

    It's just basically everything from his Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLeague View Post
    http://toonamifaithful.com/content.p...ason-DeMarco-Q

    It's just basically everything from his Twitter.
    Thanks. It gives us some nice info to look at.

    I'll chime in my thoughts tomorrow.

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    If FUNi's older Gonzo shows are on the table there's Black Cat, Solty Rei, Kiddy Grade, and Burst Angel, but all of those were probably passed over years ago for one reason or another.
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    Burst Angel and Kiddy Grade were rejected due to fanservice/panty shots, but dunno about Black Cat or Solty Rei. The latter two might still happen.
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    I didn't know that they tried to go after Slayers before. I have all of the series on DVD, but seeing one of the series on the block could be kind of cool. I'm not sure if the first series or Revolution/Evolution-R would fit better with the block. Airing Next or Try instead could be pretty cool, but I don't think either one work as well without seeing the first series first, especially in Next's case. It would probably depend on which one is more expensive for them to get. It would be kind of refreshing to have a comedy series on the block and it would have a solid amount of action to make it work for Toonami. I wouldn't mind if they got Escaflowne. I haven't seen it, but I've heard great things about it and I'd like to check it out. I've heard pretty decent things about Magic Knights Rayearth and it would be kind of nice to see a more magical girl series on the block, although I don't know if it would fit with the tone of the block like Madoka could.

    It's too bad that Trigun is unlikely to come to the block. I saw the series On Demand last year and I really liked it. I'd like to see Madoka come on the block at some point, although that's probably too expensive for them at the moment. Even though it's way too soon, the new Sailor Moon series on the block could be really cool, but it would depend on the content of the series and if they can afford to get it on the block by then. I can't really think of a lot of older titles from Funimation, aside from the Slayers series, or Viz that could work for the block right now though.

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    Reading about the general strategy with running the Toonami block, kinda makes me bummed out that the chances of Sengoku Basara, Darker than Black, Birdy the Mighty Decode or Soul Eater being on the block any time soon are unlikely. Though, it kind of makes me wonder how Casshern Sins fit in to the strategy? I can understand Jason thinking it seems like a good show (even though viewer feedback and reviews from a certain someone on an ANN column say otherwise), but... that one is far from old. That only aired in Japan 4 years ago and was just released as a complete series on blu-ray just last year. I'm not sure if it was that the people running the block could afford to air that or what.

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    Lain would make a very nice replacement for Casshern, in my opinion.I think Future Diary could be a good choice, whenever the dubbing on that is done. Le Chevalier D'Eon is also something I'd like to see plucked out of obscurity. Nice to hear that it's about "good" and not "new", but I'd also hope "not overexposed" was also criteria. For example, Gurren Lagann happened was pretty big in anime circles, and I would probably opt for it not to air on Toonami, even though it's good, and it fits. I wish they would lighten up just a bit on the fanservice policy. Tenjho Tenge, Burst Angel, Black Lagoon, and some others would work really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuromi_Star View Post
    Lain would make a very nice replacement for Casshern
    Ehhhh....while Lain is a good series, it is extremely slow-paced and deals with quite the over-people's-heads technobabble/philosophy. Honestly, I thought the theme song was the best part of the show :P I think that people just wouldn't watch it. And it's also not really an action show at all. Also, it's aired on TechTV/G4's old Anime Unleashed block which was a bit less obscure than the IFC channel. I cannot recommend Lain for the block's well-being honestly.


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    I could see Last Exile airing when Season 2 comes out.

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    I really don't like the idea of anime that has already been on TV to air on this block. I would personally prefer if they went for shows that have not aired on Tv or have not air completly.

    However that does not seem to be happening. Clearly DeMarco and the others running Toonami will go for the shows they want even if those are shows that have aired on Tv before. I have no problem with this.

    Of course IFC is less known then say Syfy so less people are likely to have seen it. Though I really don't want Gurren Lagann on Toonami. Great show as it was it had plenty of exposure on that other channel.

    Really when it comes to reairing shows I would like for Toonami to give some of Adult Swim Action's more recent shows a second chance. Yes they did not do great ratings wise but that was a problem of ASA's marketing or lack of and not due to the quality of the shows. They might have been more successful with the Toonami treatment.

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    Again, Bandai stuff is off limits at the moment simply for the reason that there is no Bandai anymore (this explains why they can't get Gundam 00). Same goes with any and all Pioneer/Geneon licenses that Funi has not rescued in the last 5 years.

    So basically stuff I could see showing up.

    Black Lagoon/The Second Barrage
    Baccano!
    Lupin III: The Woman Called Fujiko Mine - yeah its new, but I see Funi pulling a DMWL on this
    Last Exile
    Full Metal Panic/The Second Raid - Not seeing them want to bother with Fumaffu

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    I'd sooner expect Michiko to pull a DMWL than Fujiko, since the latter would require a lot of visual editing (as opposed to just bleeps and ready-made Japanese TV edits).
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    I would love to see Tenchi back on Toonami as I never got the opportunity to see it and prices are expensive for the series ($500 last time I heard) and it'd be nice to see Yu Yu Hakusho back on Toonami as well. Sadly, with Gundam, Outlaw Stars, and Trigun ruled out for now, I see our chances of getting a classic show anytime soon (within the next year or so) as much lower, especially given that it's probably expensive to get Tenchi or Yu Yu Hakusho and Adult Swim can't afford to spend money that they don't have.

    Cant' really see Thundercats returning to Toonami, new or old. The shows were made for kids and I feel as the content in the series skew more towards what kids would watch. It has adult appeal sure, but it's a kids franchise firsthand and I doubt it's going to get good 18-49 ratings.

    Regarding Hellsing Ultimate, didn't Funimation confirm that it was coming to DVD? I don't think they said anything in regards to Toonami now.

    Really, thought, the only shows that I feel have a realistic chance of getting in that I actually want to see are Panty and Stocking With Garterbelt and Gurren Lagann, both of which have potentials to be hits and both shows I want to see (thought I can get Gurren Lagann on YouTube, so it's not a big deal if it doesn't show up). There isn't any evidence that Adult Swim dislike the show, as a matter of fact, Jason DeMarco stated he was looking into it. But the fact that he couldn't get it as the next show concerns me for multiple reasons.

    As for Samurai 7, having watched two episodes (first on Funimation website and second I plan to watch on Hulu), I actually can see myself really enjoying this show, but I feel as it was not a great pick on Adult Swim's behalf. I have a bad feeling in regards to this show. Hopefully, the next new show is either Panty & Stocking or InuYasha: The Final Act; those have more potential for success.

    I don't know why I've been feeling relatively pessimistic in regards to Toonami lately. I guess you could say that week that was under a million for all shows thanks to that god-awful Bleach episode has not put me in a good mood in regards to this and I don't feel like celebrating last week ratings because of the Aurora movie theater shooting, so I feel it would be disrespectful to be happy about Toonami when twelve people lost their lives due to a madman that I will utterly loathe for the rest of my life.

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    Actually, Thundercats 2011 did better among the 18-49 demographics than it did among the target audience. Infamously, as a matter of fact. Adult Swim might try it. Whether they can fund a second season is another story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macattack View Post
    Actually, Thundercats 2011 did better among the 18-49 demographics than it did among the target audience. Infamously, as a matter of fact. Adult Swim might try it. Whether they can fund a second season is another story.
    Guess this shows how little I know of how TV works (I'm new to TV discussions).

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    Okay, Let's look at the current options. As mention since Bandai has close up shop in the US for the most part that means stuff like Outlaw Star, Code Geass, Escaflowne, Gurren Lagann, Big O, any and all Gundam series etc, won't be showing up again anytime soon. Viz is doing their own thing with Neon Alley so I doubt we'll be seeing Tiger and Bunny or Inuyasha: The Final Act here. Any Dragonball is a no because of Nicktoons and Toonzai having Kai (and well most people have seen it anyway.) Naruto Shippuden is also out since Viz is using it for Neon Alley.

    Some of the series I think most likely could air
    Last Exile (Both the original series and it's sequal, Fam, the Silver Wing)
    Baccano! (Since they can now get away with that leval of graphic violence)
    Black Lagoon/The Second Barrage ( Although there would be even more bleeps in it than DMWL as the F-bomb gets drop ALOT.)
    Darker Than Black seasons 1 and 2
    Claymore
    Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo (Samuari 7 being picked up makes it a possibility)
    Romeo x Juliet (See above)
    Shiki

    Maybes
    Uncut Yu Yu Hakusho
    Samurai Champloo again
    One Piece
    Fariy Tail
    Soul Eater
    Slayers
    Birdy the Mighty Decode
    Sengoku Basara

    Longshots
    Puella Magi Madoka Magica
    Fate/Stay Night and it's even better prequal, Fate/Zero
    Blue Exorcist
    Hunter x Hunter 2011 version
    The upcoming JoJo's Bizarre Adventure anime
    The new Sailor Moon anime

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    Will be honest and say II hope One Piece doesn't air on THIS Toonami. While I love 2012 Toonami and hope it continues, it's no place to air One Piece. One episode a week at 11pm on Saturday night won't really help anything on increasing One Piece's popularity much. Not to mention, there isn't a lot of chance that Demarco would keep One Piece. I say we just try pushing for that series on Nick Toons or another 24/7 kids network.
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