There is no way in Hell that Viacom will let AOL Time Warner air their property. After all, they are still mad about that incident with Craig Bartlett.
So what if AOL Time Warner lets Nick air these guys?![]()
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They still won't be kind in return.
we all know they butchered the show with nickelodeon and vh1. how would it be on adult swim? unedited and able to be as dirty and disgusting as it wants.![]()
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There is no way in Hell that Viacom will let AOL Time Warner air their property. After all, they are still mad about that incident with Craig Bartlett.
So what if AOL Time Warner lets Nick air these guys?![]()
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They still won't be kind in return.
I think Scooby-Doo is knida over-rated and all of the HB Dogs should be praised.
Wouldn't it be great if their could be more Peanuts specials on DVD?
It was just what my career needed - I was at the top and now I'm at the bottom.
-Halle Berry, after "winning" the Razzie Award for Worst Actress
Uh, duh?
Ren and Stimpy doesn't belong on Adult Swim.
Ren and Stimpy on Adult Swim? It wouldn't make it. Ren and Stimpy is to kiddy to make it on adult swim.Ren and Stimpy on Adult Swim? It wouldn't make it. Ren and Stimpy is to kiddy to make it on adult swim
"Maybe I'm not a geek.....maybe I've been carrying around a matress my whole life. Naw....you're right,I am a geek!"-Brian Posehn
ren and stimpy was never supposed to be a kid show. the creators have always wanted to make it an adult show, and i think adult swim would give it a chance. just an idea. chill out.
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Ren and Stimpy was great i loved it back int he day. It may or may not belong here, but I was fond of it. Lord knows how I qould react now since that was well over 8-9 years ago.
So familiar and overwhelmingly warm This one, this form I hold now.
Embracing you, this reality here, This one, this form I hold now, so
Wide eyed and hopeful. Wide eyed and hopefully wild.
We barely remember what came before this precious moment,
Choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside
This body holding me, reminding me that I am not alone in
This body makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion.
This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
What was the incident with Craig Bartlett?Originally posted by Auggie Doggie
There is no way in Hell that Viacom will let AOL Time Warner air their property. After all, they are still mad about that incident with Craig Bartlett.
Yup. It's a signature. Go away if you're expecting something interesting here.
DUDE. NO.
REN AND STIMPY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CHILDREN'S SHOW.
How can you NOT understand this?
Spumco was team create by members of cartoons like The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse and Tiny Toons. These are people that made children's cartoons with some entertaining jokes for th adults to keep them from getting bored if they were watching the show with their kid.
Ren and Stimpy was always meant to be a children's show. The plots are simple, the colors are bright and happy, and the music selection was standard low-budget.
Nick had a problem because of words and scenes that Spumco thought were suitable for kids, that Nick believed WEREN'T. But no. All of it is suitable. Ren and Stimpy's content is no more adult than any of today's kids cartoons. If you don't believe me, go ahead and watch a couple of episodes instead of judging by your blind nostalgia. There is NOTHING in R&S that wouldn't make an 8 year old laugh.
And the Spumco episodes had NO filthy language. Those were the Games Animation episodes that Bob Camp directed. These episodes had "hell", "crap", "ass", and "damn" littered throughout. But they weren't Spumco. And Ren & Stimpy isn't Ren & Stimpy when it isn't by Spumco.
He wanted to make a show for Cartoon Network while still making "Hey Arnold!" for Nick. Nick, however, objected, as they thought CTN would bring them down if more people, especially those who once worked for them, would bring them down, so they slapped him with an excusivity clause. He turned it down, thus the Nick/CTN war gets more brutal and several Arnold episodes may never air on Nick.Originally posted by MDawg957
What was the incident with Craig Bartlett?
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Another Black Mark For Nick; Another Great Toon for Turner
"It's commerce versus art... and commerce always wins." -- Gerald, Hey Arnold
How do I loathe Nick? Let me count the ways -- their ridiculous programming practices, their inane promotions, their preference to give new episodes to foreign markets first, lots and lots of reruns for Americans -- the list goes on and on.
And now, add one more item to Nick's list of faults -- pressuring Nicktoon creators to work for Nick and Nick only. This, of course, is known as an "exclusivity clause". With this in your contract, it is literally a "ball-and-chain" on your creativity.
And, because of the creator's refusal of this, the future of one of Nick's most beloved Nicktoons hangs in the balance, while its creator does some work for the competition.
Craig Bartlett, the creator of Hey Arnold, had planned on producing a second Hey Arnold film, tenatively called "Jungle Movie". Nick liked the idea, so they wanted Bartlett to sign a contract that would have Bartlett work exclusively for Nick for 2 years. There was a problem, though -- Bartlett is creating another animated series called Party Wagon, which will be about settlers travelling on the Oregon Trail (and will, no doubt, be another testament to Bartlett's Oregon roots). That series won't be for Nick, but for its competitor, Cartoon Network, which is owned by Time Warner and created by the father of modern cable TV, Ted Turner. Nick, however, was adamant about the exclusivity clause, saying something like, "No exclusivity clause, no Hey Arnold". In the end, Bartlett refused to sign the contract. Effectively, Bartlett decides to keep the Party Wagon rolling for Turner, while Nick is hopping mad about Bartlett doing work for the competition.
Bartlett is confident that he is making the right choice, as he felt that Nick is putting reins on his creativity.
I agree with Bartlett, because, if you're not comfortable at one place, you should go elsewhere. Nick, however, is starting to put ratings and money first, while force-feeding its viewers with a diet of reruns for several months straight. Many Nick programs are now being criticised, because of constant repeats. Nick is the top cable channel, but they've rested on their laurels too long.
As for me, I agree with most other animation fans, in saying that Cartoon Network puts out better cartoons. While Nick still has some gems in its line-up (especially the Klasky-Csupo Nicktoons), they are being tarnished by poor programming practices. Cartoon Network, on the other hand, has a broader selection of new toons and old favorites. And at Cartoon Network, being all things to all people definitely works. While at Nick, Nick is kids... and ratings and money, especially at the time when ad revenues are at an all-time low. Its adult audience is relegated to Nick-At-Nite only, and poor-performing Nicktoons are treated like yesterday's trash, with odd time slots and the likelihood of spending eternity resting on the shelves of Nick's archives, collecting dust (Ren & Stimpy, Rocko and now, Angry Beavers are now given this treatment). And unlike Cartoon Network, there's no room for cult hits on Nick.
I wish Craig Bartlett luck with his new project, and I hope Nick realises the error of its ways, before it ends up in the red, with poor ratings.
-Written by Steve Mindykowski, Webmaster of The Unofficial Rugrats Online
I think Scooby-Doo is knida over-rated and all of the HB Dogs should be praised.
Wouldn't it be great if their could be more Peanuts specials on DVD?
It was just what my career needed - I was at the top and now I'm at the bottom.
-Halle Berry, after "winning" the Razzie Award for Worst Actress
Sorry, but the only good thing about Ren and Stimpy is Billy West. The animation sucks, the storylines are boring, and I find it gross (and I don't gross out all that easily - well, maybe)
Sounds like Bartlett made the right decision. Who do they think they are, MGM in the 1950's?![]()
“Morons! I have morons on my payroll!” - Cobra Commander, G. I. Joe
That is stupid. Just because Nick is acting like a bunch of a**holes does not mean they should abuse the remaining episodes of the genius series that, compared with the garbagy KC cartoons, is god-like. Arnold does not deserve to "swim amoung the fishes" with CatDog, The Angry Beavers, and, possibly, Invader ZIM, other shows abused by the armpit of Children's television.Originally posted by Moi
Several Arnold episodes may never air on Nick
By the way, have I mentioned that they are:
Drunks
Fools
Dolts
Idiots
Pot Dealers
Child Molesterers
Grave Robbers
Mental Institiution Paients
People Who Jump In Frount Of Cars and Sue The Drivers
Lousey Decision Makers
Cheap, Cheap, CHEAP!
Crackheads
Butt-Pirates
Or, to sum it all up:
Evil
I think Scooby-Doo is knida over-rated and all of the HB Dogs should be praised.
Wouldn't it be great if their could be more Peanuts specials on DVD?
It was just what my career needed - I was at the top and now I'm at the bottom.
-Halle Berry, after "winning" the Razzie Award for Worst Actress
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